Like I said in a previous entry, pinoys are overjoyed over what they perceive as world football relevance. First appearance in the World Cup , first goal and first win.
To quote my favorite singer/ songwriter.
If I might intrude
Just for a moment
If only to inject a note of reality
On this festive occasion
All those “milestones” were singular. They got 1 win in their group, scoring one goal while allowing 8. Only team in the group with a negative goal differential. Finished last. I feel I have to say that because pinoys by nature do not follow football enough to understand the standings.
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Well as we love to ask here in GRP ” What is next?” Don’t look now but in less than 2 weeks the ladies have 3 matches in the Asian games (Sept 22 -28 Asian Games,). As I write this there is now a new boss to guide the ladies as they have something they did not have before: expectations. Did Alen Stajcic get out because this job was merely a stepping stone? That’s the beauty of a culture with low expectations. You score one goal and get one win and you are a “miracle worker.” Even if he did think this is as far as you can go , he would never say it pubicly. You may have witnessed the zenith of relevance of so called pinoy football.
It was Stajcic who told you :
“I don’t really care where they’re born, if they have Philippines in their heart and in their blood, and they’re good at football, then they’re eligible for our team. They all play for their flag, they all play for their country, they all play for the people in the Philippines, wherever they reside. I just know this team has Filipino heart, and blood, and courage, and spirit.”
I love how an Australian whose team shuns local players that were born and raised here is telling a local audience what playing for the flag is all about. Telling all of you who know the national anthem and crave lechon what constitutes “Filipino heart, blood , courage and spirit.” Where was that courage and spirit when he left the team before the World Cup was even over? So much for him defining what Filipino spirit is. Oh wait he jumped on another bandwagon so quickly. He might be more pinoy that I thought. You are so quick to believe a fly by night mercinary on what it is to be Filipino.
I was happy with the response of the GRP entry I released shortly after that sole World Cup win. Some people got my point and two others were very vocally against my views. The detractors thought they were attacking me hoping to shut me up , they just gave me more fuel for another volume. The people who argued with me just proved my point that I was making. They are OK with: 1) no work locally regarding soccer 2) locals being excluded 3) Enjoying the fruits of the labor of the American institutions.
I wrote my last piece asking the key question: why do pinoys relate to this team so much? I did my best to back up any claims I had with research that was available to me. The local federation was not a good source of information as I detailed in my entry. One major red flag for those so attached to this ” team from the Philippines” : headlines screaming that 18 of the 23 women on the final roster were out of a Bruce Springsteen song. That should have been their entrance music when they played in New Zealand.
Allow me to shed some light on the other five who did not escape the womb only to be initially cared for in one of the 50 US states ( mostly California):
Let’s get the one real product of the Philippines out of the way. Anicka Castaneda born in Mandaluyong and played as a young adult for DLSU. Anicka never stepped between the lines during gametime . If you watched every minute of the World Cup , you would have seen as much of her as someone who didn’t have access to a TV or the Internet. It only goes downhill from there.
What makes Ms. Castaneda the anomally in her group is she actually spent time in a classroom in the Philippines. She was the only one out of a team of 24. She is the exception not the rule . She only left the Philippines to represent it as opposed to coming here for the first time as an adult. The woman on the team with the second strongest ties is Maria Meryll Krysteen Rosales Serrano. She was born in Pangasinan but she learned about life and sports in Norway. She was first officially in the Philippines in a soccer capacity at age 25. Angela Beard was born in Australia and played almost all her soccer there including their national team. She was persuaded to switch to the Philippines quite recently. Sara Kristine Bantan Eggesvik was born in Norway and spent her entire football career in Norway , except for her time on the Philippine national team. Jaclyn Katrina Sawicki born in Canada , educated in Canada, pro career in Sweden , Japan , Australia .
How Southeast Asian are they really??? 18 American born and bred plus Canada , Norway and Australia.
I learned a lot interacting with my detractors. They insist ” we are the same blood”. What good is that? Do I have to spell it out? We already know that 18 of the 23 women were American born . I found no cases where both parents were Filipino immigrants. Most of the cases it was the mother who was of Philippine descent. They were not even necessarily born in the Philippines. Why that is important is let’s break down the importance of Filipino blood. In 18 of the 23 cases on the ” Philippine ” women’s team : the sperm is American, the egg is of Filipino descent, the hospital is American, the elementary school is American, the playmates are American, the coaches are American, the fields are American, the soccer ball bought in an American mall, the diet is American, the high schools are American and the universities are American. Where is the “pinoy” input? Most people are OK with this since the pinoy values pansin more than doing the work to getting the pansin.
We are all unified in the sense that the Philippines as a whole had nothing to do with our soccer skills.
Anyone who remembers anything about high school physics will remember the equation:
work = force x distance
The word “work” as used in physics has a narrower meaning than it does in everyday life. First, it only refers to physical work, of course, and second, something has to be accomplished. If you lift up a box of books from the floor and put it on a shelf, you’ve done work, as defined in physics, if the box is too heavy and you tug at it until you’re worn out but it doesn’t move, that doesn’t count as work. If we use the framework of physics then , how much work did the Philippines do to get these women in shape to go on the world stage?
Now that you have a better idea how little the Philippines has to do with ” their team in the World Cup”, I just want to dig a bit deeper into their roster selection:
Kaiya Jota was born in California and first got to the Philippines age 16. She is now 17 . She will go to Stanford not La Salle not Ateneo . Malea Cesar ( 19 years old) born in California and has been part of the Philippine team for only a year and she is a semi professional player in Australia. Isabella Victoria Sola Flanigan is only 18 and played high school football in Florida and she is going or will go to West Virginia University in the US. Isabella Pasion is the youngest of this group who was 16 at the time of the World Cup She is still in high school and was listed as a reserve. I am not telling you this because these ladies are not even old enough to drink in a bar in the US. I am telling you this because stock piling all these youth imports shows you the PFF has no intention of developing anybody born and developed locally. They seem to looking everywhere except the Philippines for their talent.
It is all about empowerment until you are shown the door for a 16 year old who was not even born and educated in the Philippines.
Kaiya Jota as mentioned earlier is only 17. I talked about Filipino football ignoring the people actually born here and looking at them as sub human when it comes to women representing this country. There is also discarding the ones you already had under your tent. Inna Palacos born in Manila and played for CSA Makati and DLSU. She was good enough to be in a local VISA commercial but not good enough to keep a 16 year old off the roster. She is the poster child of this wave of casting aside the locals for the imports. This wave born out of the thirst for pansin.
Another paradox I love to hammer home whenever Gilas or the Azkals inevitably come up short is the “leftover ” theory. Other teams that beat the snot out of Gilas are not playing their country’s favorite sport. Gilas brings in an import because it is already an admission that homegrown Filipinos are not enough. Any import on the roster will close the opportunity for a Filipino who actually cared about representing his country his whole life. Any import who cares enough to represent the Philippines I guarantee you was not close to making the team of the country he or she really belongs to. This applies to both Gilas and the Azkals. You are taking the court / field with players who are not in demand by the best in the world. So being competitive with the best in the world is just a fantasy. I still have no idea why pinoys really expect relevance abroad with soccer when almost none of them make the sport relevant locally.
There was one woman on the World Cup team who was born in Mandaluyong. The rest only came here to play soccer. They did not come here because they love Edsa. They didn’t come here because they thought it was an honor to be on noontime shows. They came here because every athlete faces sports mortality. There will come a time they will not be relevant as an athlete. Lot of high school players experience that. The roster of women that qualified for the World Cup only became citizens of this country not because of love of this country or even residency in this country. They became citizens to prolong their relevance in their sport. They did not qualify for the US team where they rather be so why not the consolation prize? They are playing for the Philippines because they had no choice. Actually there was a choice. Not play in the World Cup. I know you are all proud to be pinoy. The jury is still out if you are proud of work pinoys actually did.
I was talking to a Chinese man who is in China via video chat and talking about his favorite subject- football . He was so proud that his team qualified for the World Cup and did not have one American. He laughed that Filipinos were so quick to accept a Filipino team with no Filipinos who were born and raised there . I did find out later there was one but only after a lot of digging. There are some countries that rather succeed or fail with their own players they developed and would never put up exploiting a loophole to have a roster of foreigners. Then I remembered that Filipinos spent so many years bending over to colonial masters. See the difference? Filipinos hate China being aggressive but lack the means to do anything on their own and have to run crying elsewhere for help .One country is the intimidator and the other can not do anything about it on their own. Do you see a relation?
Look at the local culture. Look at local values. None of it screams world class soccer. I will tell you what it does scream: credit grabbing, chest beating, false pride and jumping on the bandwagon. Local media screams baduy. Baduy is something that the local audience wants to aspire to. If that was not true then Vice Ganda would not reach as many households as he does. No way on God’s green earth are world class soccer players are coming out of this culture. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. You are not good at soccer locally and yet you embrace soccer glory in the form of the Philippine flag in a woman’s jersey even if the wearer of that jersey has so little in common with you. Representing a country in an international compeition among countries is supposed to be an honor and a privelege reserved for those who toiled all their lives inside that country wanting to represent that same country. Instead we have mercenaries and leftovers getting by on technicalities. Is morale in this country too dismal to produce our own representatives? You have to import people who did not grow up in the Filipino environment with the constant messages the streets and noontime TV bombard them with. You have to go to countries that support and encourage more than one team sport. If our environment is such a handicap , do we deserve to play to play with the big boys/ girls? They seem to get their environment together.
One of the biggest selling albums of all time is Fleetwood Mac’s Rumors. Dreams was the only single off the album to reach #1. Of course a few generations later some people believe that Dreams is a Coors song. The signature line of that song I believe is ” And have you any dreams you’d like to sell?” . When the curtain went up in NZ/ Australia the Philippine flag was there. Yes the dream of pansin was achieved at the cost any semblance of pinoyness. The dream of pansin achieved while selling away any hope of any local women representing the country they were born and raised in. Pinoy culture that celebrates “our girls” without questioning the lack of our girls in the program are complicit in the selling of that dream. Hope they are happy setting up a club so exclusive that locals are not allowed in.
Like I said earlier , there was only one win and one goal scored in the World Cup and at what cost? What true hope does a local athlete have when pinoys are so intoxicated with this pansin without any real work from the locals?? Maybe somebody in the local press is asking this question but I doubt it. Nobody in local sports media wants to be a fly in the ointment of pansin. I have to quote Angola’s coach in the recently concluded FIBA tournament.
“We can sign an import like most of the national teams and maybe we’re gonna score more 3s,” Canals said. “But I don’t believe this is correct, and I really think that FIBA must stop this as soon as possible.
“Otherwise, in some years, there will be no local product. Each country needs to develop their own players. This is what I think.
“There are players that don’t even speak the language of the country that they represent. There are countries which have seven, eight player that were born outside that country.”
That same article considered Jordan Clarkson as naturalized. The same Clarkson who pinoy fans treated like he was another man with the initials of J.C. He was the NBA talent surrounded by PBA talent. What message are you sending local athletes that they are not welcome or will be treated as inferior tokens? Can it be more obvious than that? Locals are not welcome. The Philippines has zero interest in developing their own players when it comes to soccer and I am not sure that is something to be proud of.
For me there is a disconnect. This country did not learn how to play soccer well overnight. The country can not produce soccer players. They recently turned a blind eye to anyone born here. Which is discrimination no matter how you slice it. To wear the Philippines kit in New Zealand and step between the lines you can’t be born in the Philippines? You get a local born goal keeper good enough to be in a VISA commercial only to replace her with a 16 year old? That makes sense only in the Philippines. I am the pinoy sports conscience. I am the defacto national sports honesty broker. I am not blinded by KSP . I have spent decades on this earth enjoying sports where pinoys have no impact. Sports will go on without homegrown pinoy involvement and ironically the local soccer federation by not even considering local talent is seeing to that.
Putting a very sharp needle into the balloon known as Pinoy Pride since 2012.
Keep up the great work Gogs. Your not the only one who notices the bull*** and is not afraid to speak out.
More of nothing in Ph. Sad. Under the thumb of their colonialist/imperialist overlords- masters
The piece is too long for a gripe but just the same I summarized and assumed it’s all about allegedly not being a true Filipino representing the country.
It focuses on the physical aspect of who and why these people are representing us. Regardless of how the players feel, how they discern their mission, how they understand the meaning of their participation and how their hearts feel towards the country they identify with and treat as their own by blood or by some other connections.
The article was too critical as to where these players were coming from, in terms of location, education, life, etc. regardless if they passed the qualification requisites to be a member of the national team or not. Really? If they checked all the boxes to qualify to play in the national team what’s the point in antagonizing or criticizing them? To just deal a low blow to our sense of nationalism?
Do we really have to be critical of people who have shown love, respect and adoration to the motherland in representing her in international competitions? The least we can do, I think, is to appreciate and congratulate them for their sacrifices.
This is 2023, we are no longer living in the era where the idea of an Aryan race in Olympics was promoted not too long ago. Imagine, the most racist country in the world, Germany, has a black player (Dennis Schroder) today in their national basketball team. Did it degrade or cheapen or even lower the status of them winning the FIBA championship? NO. The world admires them for their competitive spirits and basketball mastery. That is all that matters.
How ‘bout China, the land of the giants? Didn’t they parade Kyle Anderson, an American NBA player in their team? I see nothing wrong in there. Like the Filipino players having foreign blood playing in our team, I’m sure Schroeder and Anderson feels the same way to the country they are representing. Perfect.
Do we want pure local Filipinos who have no international exposure and experience composed of natives which may include pygmies, mangyans and other indigenous people that are pure blooded Filipinos who doesn’t have the capability to adapt to the physical demands of the sports? Yes, why not, we pride on our nationalism and patriotism, etc., but we’ll not only lose embarrassingly for sure but we’ll also be a butt of jokes in the whole sporting world for doing so. Dumb.
This is not the moment to question why people plays for the country. This is the moment to be appreciative and happy that there are people from far away places that took time and effort to declare their affinity, connection and readiness to play for the country they treat as their own. Nothing can be great and noble than that. Godly.
This is not the time to spread and allow the crab mentality to prevail No, please no. Evil.
That’s why Ph will and forever be a global laughing stock. Now be a good boy and shine uncle Anglos shoes….
I read you and I don’t understand what you’re talking about. You can elaborate if you can.
Isn’t crab mentality about one crab pulling a crab seatmate back into the pot ? That crab can not leave the pot. This piece is exactly about crabs in a different pot not considered the Philippines representing the Philippines pot . This piece is exactly about the crabs in the Philippine pot having nowhere to go. If you are part of the Philippines pot then you can not represent the Philippines pot. Born In The USA pa more. 18/23 of the women in the roster in the World Cup in New Zealand were born in California or some other US state and stayed there in that “pot” (US) till they were an adult. I got what I understood to be the paradigm of crab mentality and applied it to the central points of my essay.
If we can’t adapt to international sports with players born and trained here then why do we belong there?? Stop playing the genetic victim card. The point here is competing has always about work and not about genes. Pinoys are just lousy at team sports and even individual sports. There is the one exception the proves the rule. Take one look at Curry or Iverson and neither will tower over any pinoy guard playing internationally. Only a certain Dean will still argue that pinoys are in the same class of athlete just less gifted physically.
Already addressed in the blog. What does Juan Dela Cruz have in common with them? What did Juan Dela Cruz do make them competitive enough to be on the world stage? The women who played for the Philippines. Their services were not in demand in Canada, America and Australia. I don’t understand why playing for the Philippines is a sacrifice since that was their one way in to the tournament. It is not about showing love, respect and adoration to the motherland . 22 out of 23 women on this team had nothing to with Philippines sports until they were invited to be on the national team. They did not apply to the Motherland as you put it, they were recruited. “Low blow to our sense of nationalism?? “- if you are born here and raised in the Philippine educational system you are excluded from the World Cup. That is a low blow to our sense of nationalism. Barking up the wrong tree there.
2023 – 1936 not too long ago. I guess not too long ago is a matter of opinion. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?? Since you brought up the victim card and World War II aggressors , both Japan and Germany did not spend the last 78 years playing the victim card. They didn’t use that as an excuse to sulk their way into third world status. Pearl Harbor did not work so Japan got back at the US with tape decks.
My blog discussed internal racism, sports mortality , lack of diversity in sports and local apathy to our own athletes. Until then let’s join hands with the Malditas and sing !!!!!!
“If we can’t adapt to international sports with players born and trained here then why do we belong there?” – Dogs
It is not an issue of being belonged or not it is the participation in the family of nations as the ultimate goal of why we join periodic sports tournaments around the world.
Like I said, you are looking on the issue with a biased – racially biased lens to accommodate your one-sided view that sports should be a racial thing.
Well, I’m sorry there is nothing about skins or where you come from that is required in sports competition. All you have to be is be prepared, represent the country that sent you and spread brotherhood and peace in the process.
What you are doing is expressing not your frustration for what should be right but your anger, resentment and fear of what should be done regardless of the absence of common sense.
Get off your moral high horse and see things as they are rightfully meant to be. Our athletes, wherever they come from, whatever schools they studies from or language they speak has only one thing in their hearts and minds and that is to proudly represent their country as competently as they can in the highest order and bring honor to her.
That is all what counts.
They’re Not Filipino. Ancestrally yes, but Not Filipino. They are USAians. Are “African-Americans” Afrikan? Nope. They’re black Americans Po
Don’t you think that it is a complete joke that 80% of Team Philippines and they wear the Philippine flag is .
“I am the pinoy sports conscience.” – Dogs
No, you categorically are not. You are a national denigrator dedicated to forever examine with your bias lenses the country’s effort to uplift and develop the Philippine sports in general.
A conscientious observer, which you are not, examines and find ways to contribute, improve, rehabilitate or make better a situation for everybody’s benefit.
There are posters who agree with me and posters who do not agree with me. Guess which group calls me names since they can’t argue with the premise of ” I guess pinoys consider themselves a football nation now.” .
Why should I “uplift” Philippine sports when this piece merely exposes that something not produced and developed in the Philippines is considered a team representing the Philippines? Call me another name since that is your idea of uplifting. You had enough time & space to disagree with me. I didn’t shove this blog your throat but you are exactly the person I want to annoy.
“There are posters who agree with me and posters who do not agree with me.” – gogs
Doesn’t make sense. I’m not here to take note of who agrees/disagrees with me. I’m too secure for that.
“…can’t argue with the premise of ” I guess pinoys consider themselves a football nation now.” – Gogs
The problem with your premise is you assumed that we consider ourselves a football nation now. Nobody was saying that. Where did you get that idea?
“Why should I “uplift” Philippine sports…” – Gogs
Nobody told you that. Again, where did you get that idea? For the most part those who disagrees with you was just saying go slow on attack on our team. You may feel that it is not your team, fine, but you don’t have to disparage and belittle those people who are just trying to represent the country internationally and at the same time help improve sports in the country. What’s wrong with that? Or what’s wrong with you?
“…you are exactly the person I want to annoy.” – Gogs
If that is what your interest is, be my guest.
Most pinoys cannot nor will not understand that the severe with their us colony (“Philippines”) is one of false pride, low mean IQs, laziness, and inability to think critically.
This stolen valor sporty nonsense is yet case study in failipinology
“Stop playing the genetic victim card.” – Dogs
Genetic victims card? I was the one who says those who want to play for the country, regardless of whatever, are welcome. Where is the victim card regarding genetics there?
You on the other hand expressed abhorrence to those you suspect that are not real Filipinos because of shallow reasons like they are not from here, they do not speak the language, they studied abroad, etc. All skin deep alibis just to give way to hate.
As aptly stated earlier, these foreigners were recruited bc no other country wanted them.
Then of course they pull the Pinoy power marketing thing etc etc even though they’re whiter than white bread and are Anglo raised. But all of sudden they’re spouting Pinoy power?! More nonsense to appeal to low average IQ pinoys and Americans who have Filipino ancestry—then chest thump their Pinoyness yet know nothing about the Philippines other than adobo and Salamat. Good night Irene.
“As aptly stated earlier, these foreigners were recruited bc no other country wanted them.” – Alba
I don’t know who stated that and I don’t believe your alibi.
“…even though they’re whiter than white bread and are Anglo raised. ” – Alba
So, you’re into color now? Can we just stick to football?
It’s analogy. A metaphor. They are white, Anglo minded. Like “fil-ams”at heure Anglo Saxon -waspy raised. They are Not pinoys.
“They are Not pinoys.” – Alba
Sure, but what’s your point? Was there a violation in the FIBA eligibility rules? Was that raised by an opposing team? Tell me, where are you on this discussion?
Look, Gogs, by his silence, could have finally realized that his allegations against players from other countries playing for our team may have been a misunderstanding on his part hence he no longer wants to push his agenda.
I suggest you confer with Gogs so he could advise you to either to go on or just give up your cause because it is a losing one.
Shallow reasons it is you who said:
I said this midway through my blog and if you totally fit the bill fine. Just say you are 1-2-3.
The people who argued with me just proved my point that I was making. They are OK with: 1) no work locally regarding soccer 2) locals being excluded 3) Enjoying the fruits of the labor of the American institutions.
How simple can I make it ? We don’t produce anybody born here and yet we feel entitled to be on that stage. Yet I am whatever you call me. I am not the one shunning players who were born here and went to school here. The PFF is. Yet they dress it up and you comply with the smoke and mirrors.
I don’t know if anybody still remembers a team by the name of Northern Cement Basketball team in the ’80s. It was a program under former Pres. Marcos tasked to set up, finance, and develop the national basketball team to represent the country internationally.
During that time all the best Filipino basketball players were playing in the PBA, the first professional basketball league in Asia. And with the decision by the International Basketball Federation allowing only amateur players to play in the tournament, the likes of Jaworski, Adornado, Paner, Webb, etc. were not allowed to play.
In his desire to find a way to keep the Philippine basketball competitive on the international stage, without the country’s best players, Danding Cojuangco, the country’s project director for basketball decided to recruit American coaches one of which was Ron Jacobs.
To fast-track the goal and success of the program, the first team formed in 1981 has eight American players that were eventually naturalized Filipinos.
To his credit, Jacobs revolutionized the way basketball was played in the Philippines. He raised the level of technology in playing the game and turned every contest into a learning experience by showing how to win with science, hard work, team play and discipline.
From that daring experiment the Philippines has garnered success which has benefitted basketball in general up to this day in terms of keeping in steps of how the game should be played.
Naturally, like today, there were also detractors back then who rejects foreign players playing under the national color. That’s life. There are people who look at things on different angle than the people. There are people who sees the long term positive effect of acquiring technology in terms of coaching experience, techniques, game strategies and other factors that were available outside the country.
And sadly, there are people who, for some reason, feels resentment and bad feelings looking at imports donning the national uniform. Imports that they feel were not part of who they are. I understand the feeling however I don’t look and think about just at the moment. I look at the steps being made to develop and improve the quality of sports in the country in terms of enabling us to be competitive in the near future. And that is the most important.
I simply said the PFF in 2023 treats locally born and educated players as dirt. You have to go back 40 years ago. All the venom you spew towards me . You accused me of not appreciating the players. My blog is about why is the Philippine team has little to do with the country they represent. That is up to the PFF. All I ask is work for what you get. If you don’t work hard enough to get a team that qualifies then enjoy watching other teams play. I forgot you are all for a Philippines team that is .
Who one doesn’t speak the language/s , was not born or naturalized n Ph, does not know the history, culture intimately, then how are they Filipino? Are they Ph immigrants hold visa status in Ph?!
Or are They are USAian, Australian, Kiwi etc.?
Then, They are not Filipinos. Ancestrally yes however —they are not Filipinos. Are 4th generation USAians in the Bronx New York Italians?! Mamma Mia! Krotch grab Getta da pizza …are they “Italian”? Of course not. Yes Ancestrally but they are not Italian.
The failipines is bad comedy show.
A very budget show about nothing. Failipinology-Case Studies
No venom spewed on you just facts and common sense.
” You accused me of not appreciating the players. ” – Dogs
I agree with you on that because that’s what you’re doing. You forgot that those people who came to play for us has to qualify, had to satisfy certain requirements. If you do not agree with them representing us, question the process of how they ended up as our representative.
They did not barged in, forced us under duress saying that whether we like it or not they’re going to wear the country’s uniform and play for the us. No such thing.
In other words, you are barking on the wrong tree. I’m not sure of your purpose, all I can see is you’re tying to present your self as nationalistic or patriotic but in a cheap way.
I thought PH sports is largely about basketball? What happened? PH is a football nation now because of Pinoy Pride virus? That pride is just cringe.
Nothing happened, you just assumed something that has no basis.
“I thought PH sports is largely about basketball? What happened? PH is a football nation now because of Pinoy Pride virus? That pride is just cringe.” – No Data
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Well, you either have been misled or you’re just too quick to the draw by saying that without realizing it exposes your ignorance. MY COUNTRY is a sports nation if you are not aware of it. Basketball is very popular among Filipinos, great kind of people, for the simple reason that it’s practical and simple.
Pinoy pride virus? That pride is just cringe? Do I take that as an insult or what? Anyway, you get the message and I’m sure you got the lesson.
Matalino, Gogs!
Now if I can replace all these sports-labeling with engineering, it would also serve the same sense.
Keep it up!
Or inorganic chemistry or physics. Naaah. Rapper musak, sports. And tushy shaking for a sexpats—don’t forget the great statesman ex boxer who used to punch people in heads for a living .
Pinoy prides-get in that American war mongering jeepney and smell those fumey ride for the colonial imperialists
True that. I know this should warrant its own blog or topic, but the thing is we simply lack proper foundation for science and tech to flourish.
I could speak some for sports, but all I see around are just street basketball left and right near home. I do enjoy some good badminton myself but little to none of the locals I know play.
All those “milestones” were singular. They got 1 win in their group, scoring one goal while allowing 8. Only team in the group with a negative goal differential. Finished last.
I feel I have to say that because pinoys by nature do not follow football enough to understand the standings. – Gogs
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Really, you have to say that to cast aspersions and embarrass more every Pinoy who reads your article?
You alleged we do not follow enough to understand football standings. Practically accusing us of ignorance on a game we have been playing since 1981.
Congrats Gogs for a beautiful “objective” analysis on the status of football in the Philippines.
Why should they be embarassed? I don’t believe pinoys follow Seria A or the Premier League or the league is Germany or even leagues in Asia. I mention in this piece the league “high” in attendance. No idea why they would be embarassed . There are pockets of fans of Real Madrid, Man U etc but all that will not add up to 1% of pinoy Lakers fans.
“I don’t believe pinoys follow Seria A or the Premier League or the league is Germany or even leagues in Asia.” – Gogs
See the holier than thou attitude there? You believe or not is irrelevant, Pinoy plays football and participate in international competition.
“No idea why they would be embarassed.” – Gogs
Of course, you have no idea why Pinoys, who you think are beneath you, are embarrassed. The empathy-free manner you treat them has completely made you blind to their relevance. Your disdain to them has made you not only critical of who and what they are, you simply hate the fact that they actually exists.
You talk about pinoys loving football and participating. I researched what counts as ” record attendance”. I broke down the roster of the team everybody was cheering and nobody who was born and raised here was worthy of playing time in New Zealand and you say ” pinoys participate in international competion. “. I thought participate means when the game is on , they are there. You know, making contact with the ball while the clock is running. You miss every point I make and have yet to show me any kind of football pinoys care about. You just throw insults at me as usual. Guess you are too proud to be pinoy to describe them accurately.
“Guess you are too proud to be pinoy to describe them accurately.” Gogs
Proud is not relevant on the issue.
You are right, I said Pinoys participate in international competition. Is that a lie? Am I making up stories just to annoy you? Of course, not. They did compete.
You don’t believe they participate because the players were not native Filipinos. That is your position and you have the right to say it. Regardless whether those players have Filipino blood in them or affinity of some kind you still look at them as NOT Filipinos. Fine.
However, international competitions have rules. One just cannot go and play as one wish. Nope. You have to comply with certain requirements for eligibility to be able to participate.
Now, how can you reconcile that fact with your opinion? I agree with the facts because it’s the reality. Your opinion, well, that’s for you to decide if it’s relevant or not in the context of international sports competition.
“I talked about Filipino football ignoring the people actually born here and looking at them as SUB HUMAN when it comes to women representing this country.” – Gogs
Just look at the malice, the despicable and vile portrayal in that statement through exaggeration and lies about people in Philippines sports. Did Gogs really look at the programs of the Philippine Sports Commission and found that they have a system of treating locals as “SUB HUMAN”?
I mean, one can exaggerate at times but to exaggerate to demonize innocent people is just a disgrace. No decent people with clean conscience will do that.
As usual in your effort to demonize me and sprout off personal insults , you see what you want to see instead of coprehending the main point of this piece. 18 American born players and only one local born player who was trained here. Local goalkeeper good enough to be on a Visa commercial shoved aside for a 16 year old. The roster that the local football federation released on July 9 2023 said so much without resorting to adjectives. You may have issue with my adjectives but why don’t you look at what I looked at and come up with your own. I did what any opinion producer does, start with facts that are referenced and come to my own conclusions. I have no idea what conclusions you can come up with. The local player born and developed here was not welcome on the roster and the playing field when push came to shove in the World Cup. You obviously don’t have an issue with name calling so what gives? Try reading the blog provided above if you can. Not that I expect you to start now . Ad hominem pa more . Once again I will ask you. This time on my own blog entry. Which one were you ? Merrin or Karras?
You keep on barking on the wrong tree because you want to promote your racial view of the world. Not gonna happen.
One question: What international sports law was violated when the Philippines allowed players from foreign countries to play for its team?
If you criticize, at least, you have some legal basis for it. So what is it?
That’s funny, you asked him for legal basis, but you didn’t give me a legal basis when I asked you to provide it for your accusation that a Filipino who says that Filipino society is horrible is a candidate to be a collaborator and a spy, you just said not to ask you for a legal basis because it would be dangerous.
“I asked you to provide it for your accusation that a Filipino who says that Filipino society is horrible is a candidate” – No Data
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I’m telling you, you as a Filipino, are horrible for saying your former country is horrible.
You don’t ask for legal basis for that. What you should do is prove you are not which is very hard to do.
“because you want to promote your racial view of the world. “
Tell me another one without your prerequisite ad hominem. But that is quite the impossibility at this point . What is so racist about my view. Team Philippines with the Philippine flag should be comprised of players born and developed here. If none exist on that squad then it is fair game. Football officials in the Philippines are racist against their own kind. Answer the question . Besides I never said it was legal. I just questioned pinoy pride when the contents are not pinoy by even their standards. Serial ad hominem just prove my point originally stated in the piece:
The people who argued with me just proved my point that I was making. They are OK with: 1) no work locally regarding soccer 2) locals being excluded 3) Enjoying the fruits of the labor of the American institutions.
“The people who argued with me just proved my point that I was making. They are OK with: 1) no work locally regarding soccer 2) locals being excluded 3) Enjoying the fruits of the labor of the American institutions.” – Gogs
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And to whom did you get your permission to speak for them? Name one person here who told you the exact words you wrote above.
“You don’t ask for legal basis for that.”
When you ask for legal basis, it’s ok but when you get asked for legal basis, it’s not ok, that’s double standard.
“ When you ask for legal basis, it’s ok but when you get asked for legal basis, it’s not ok, that’s double standard.” – No Data
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You called Phil horrible. I said you’re horrible for doing so. Stay on that issue. Don’t go far away.
“You called Phil horrible. I said you’re horrible for doing so. Stay on that issue. Don’t go far away.”
You also said that Filipinos who say that is a strong candidate to be a collaborator and a traitor, so I asked what’s your legal basis, and you just refused to answer.
“ You also said that Filipinos who say that is a strong candidate to be a collaborator and a traitor, so I asked what’s your legal basis, and you just refused to answer.” – No Data
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Actually, this is a waste of time but just the same I’ll explain to you that issue.
If you are a Filipino and you have the gall to call your country horrible who will stop you from conspiring against your country? From selling her to foreign countries because you are disloyal to her?
And it is not based on legal reason but on morality itself.
If there are no Filipino players, your average Filipino will not care. I’m Filipino, but I don’t pay attention to sports because I’m not a huge sports fan. It doesn’t matter whether there are any Filipinos in the team or not, I still don’t care. Filipinos only care as long as there are Filipinos present. Filipinos are not a big fan of football/soccer, and majority prefers to play basketball.
Hello!! I agree that you are not a fan of sports and maybe this team and their tactics did not register on your radar. You know who I never knew was a fan of football ? Vogue Magazine. Yet the local version of the “fashion” magazine decided to feature said “Filipino ” football players on their magazine. If there is a bandwagon to jump on , local media will make sure to jump on it.
“You know who I never knew was a fan of football ? Vogue Magazine. Yet the local version of the “fashion” magazine decided to feature said “Filipino ” football players on their magazine. If there is a bandwagon to jump on , local media will make sure to jump on it.” – Gogs
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So, what’s wrong in doing legal business? What’s the matter with Gogs, you’re alway against something that is normal, regular or common?
Vogue magazine is doing legal business, what’s your beef against them? Local media jumping on a bandwagon is common everywhere. So what’ your point?
Look, there’s a lot of more serious and deadly issues around the world to pick on and criticize and talk about. But sports popularity? There must be something serious and important reason why you keep on attacking Philippine sports but you’re just too shy to admit it.
I say, leave the PHL sports alone. It’s doing good, people are enjoying it and it does no affect anybody’s mental health except one.
Shouldn’t Philippine sports be played by uh… uhmmmmm , rrrrrrr Filipinos??
“ Shouldn’t Philippine sports be played by uh… uhmmmmm , rrrrrrr Filipinos??” – Gogs
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Where did you get that idea? Is there a law mandating that sports be exclusively played by Filipinos?
I’m not asking that to make fun of you because I’m not really sure what the answer is.
Gogs,
I have re-read your comment over and over again. I just want to make sure that you are not directly attacking me, because I do not know how to respond to your comment, which is your response to my comment. I did not take it as a personal attack, but your comment caught me off guard.
What you are saying is that Vogue Magazine, despite being a fashion magazine, writes an article about “Filipino” football players. They pretend to be fans. They are not actual fans of the sport itself, they are fans of the “Filipino” players. That’s it. That’s how you get Filipinos to care about the sport itself. At least I’m honest about my opinion. Having Filipinos on a soccer/football team will not instantly turn me into a fan. Football is just not my thing.
My point is soccer is not “the thing” for 99.9999% of pinoys. I looked for evidence of organic soccer support and soccer playing and I could not find much. Read what I wrote while the World Cup was going on Pinoys love their short cuts . That is why there is little law abiding and rule following. Usually international success comes after lots of local work and competition. Did any of your friends watch a real soccer game in the last 5 years? A game that was officiated and counted towards some sort of standings. You are being you. I guess it was not a coincidence that Vogue Philippines cares because Women’s Soccer is in fashion with that one goal and one win. Nobody cared much now it is in fashion so let’s get more publicity in a fashion magazine. Athletes care because they have ability and love for the game. There was none of that in the World Cup from anybody born here and raised here. None. So yes , I agree with you. Pinoys in love with the label when they won’t bother reading or caring about the ingredients.
“My point is soccer is not “the thing” for 99.9999% of pinoys.” – Gogs
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And who said it was? Who or what even gave you the idea to entertain such a thing?
Everybody knew basketball is the most popular sport in the country. Next is boxing.
The question really boils down to, why are you questioning something that is really out of the question?
” You know who I never knew was a fan of football ? Vogue Magazine. Yet the local version of the “fashion” magazine decided to feature said “Filipino ” football players on their magazine.” – Gogs
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So, you mean a magazine or any magazine for that matter shall only feature topics that they are a fan of? Really, Gogs?
And “Vogue magazine” by the name itself covers a lot of issues from sports to politics to to entertainment to fashion to everything. For you to be ignorant on the magazines’ coverage is surprising to me.
Gogs, now, it seems, feels entitled and demanding. But does that even matter?
Whatever it is, Vogue magazine, the local version, decides to feature is their own business.
And whether or not some meddlesome KSP wise guy agrees with it or not, that’s his own affair.
Gogs’ personal dictum, “I LIKE TO WRITE ABOUT THINGS I CARE ABOUT.”?
The creep thinks he’s someone special. It helps to be reminded.
Gee, would it hurt to read what I was answering. The person said she doesn’t care and I gave a concrete example of people who do care.
BTW , can I lump you into the original premise of what I wrote? Since we are all going our own way. I see you are from the Juan Luna school of ad hominem . Hurl insults first , don’t bother to read what is there.
The people who argued with me just proved my point that I was making. They are OK with: 1) no work locally regarding soccer 2) locals being excluded 3) Enjoying the fruits of the labor of the American institutions.
“ I see you are from the Juan Luna school of ad hominem . Hurl insults first…” – Oh, please stop. You know that is not true. Don’t copy No Data on his “Oh I was insulted cry, cry, cry” effect. Just respond like a man and ignore the teasing because, like the rest, you also commit the same thing that you’re alleging. Don’t divert the issue to your self.
Why do you even resort to teasing and then tell to ignore the teasing? Ad hominem should not be done in a debate.
So debate, argue your point.
Don’t resort to some imaginary distraction.
Gogs,
Who is the one arguing with you? Juan Luna? Because I’m not. I don’t know much about athleticism in the Philippines, but what I do know is that basketball is popular amongst Filipino men. Soccer/football is more popular with Hispanics because I know Mexicans in the US love to play soccer and support soccer teams.
@Gogs
All these arguments about Pinoy pride can be settled only if you can show you have basis in law, culture or even tradition.
But you have none of those.
What you have really is sentiments, resentment and victimhood complex. You think something is wrong because it doesn’t conform with your biases.
Maybe this-a guy has not touched grass with the locals. All this ‘gief basis, gief law, gief kultur’ begging doesn’t make you differ; it merely makes you look like a geek of a wimp.
I mean bruh, if you couldn’t even identify yourself being one with the locals you get nada from these guys who have valid criticism.
If this were real life, you’d likely get punched in the face.
So. you are telling me the people who are exuberantly yelling “proud to be pinoy!!!” have to be defined in some charter or in the constitution. I can not see with my own eyes and ears? Since you are so fond of calling me names , can I call you Thomas?
Is it bad or evil to celebrate a win and yell proud to be pinoy? Will it be an automatic credit grabbing? What’s the difference between pinoy fans and those soccer fans who yelled exuberantly and celebrated for days and “credit grabbed” when Messi won for Argentina in World Cup? and Denver Nuggets American fans who went wild and crazy in the denver streets and yelled “super proud to be denver fans” celebrating their first ever championship win after 56 years of drought with their best players Jokic and Murry who are Serbian and Canadian citizens? Do you think they shouldn’t be proud of their teams and shouldn’t have acted/celebrated that way? Just google them and you will see how crazy they were. Pinoy fans acts of celebration are too miniscule compared to how these other nations celebrate their own winnings.
“Is it bad or evil to celebrate a win and yell proud to be pinoy?” yelling proud to be Pinoy just because your team won in a sports competition is cringe, it’s what make that pride cringe.
Using sport to validate national greatness is so cringe!
Cringe is a killjoy feeling. Filipinos are not alone in yelling proud to be. Yelling proud to be is a universal emotion and has been practiced by human beings in a sports competition since time immemorial. It has become an automatic and customary impulse emotion in any international sports competitions.
Have you ever seen first world countries who get into mass brawl against other fans and opposing players in soccer games? They are worst compared to yelling proud to be pinoy. Why do you single out pinoys by being proud? Don’t you have any experience being proud in your team? Or you have no family and friends to celebrate with?
“…yelling proud to be Pinoy just because your team won in a sports competition is cringe, it’s what make that pride cringe.” – No Data
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It’s cringe to those who are jealous. If your team wins, it’s all celebration, all happy and all cheering.
Any person who sees cringe in celebration are just a lonely person wanting to belong.
Gogs,
I’m surprised you did not question or criticize in detail the FIFA and FIBA rules in your article allowing naturalized players to play for one’s country when it is the root cause of the sentiments you are crying here. If only FIFA and FIBA did not allow naturalized players to play, the Philippines would not let all these American raised players to represent the Philippines. The FIFA and FIBA were the ones who created the rules/qualifications, the Philippines just availed the option of these rules/qualifications with the objective of making the possibility to win. It is all about it.
A win at what cost? It is still a choice. Like many choices there are comprises. Like I said in the original piece. The local federation that made those choices did not make the birth places and backgrounds of the ladies known. The ladies were looking for a place to play and they found it in a place they had a marginal connection to. I uncovered facts that other places were not aware of or decided to gloss over. So the governing body shut out the locals. How does this encourage the women born here exactly?
(edit) – I am sure I said this in previous blogs. Those rules are in place because FIFA is a business. Some countries might lose 20-0 if only had their own to draw from and there goes a paying member.
What cost? There is no cost as you gravely perceived it. You are the one making a big deal out of it. There was no confirmed news coming directly from local soccer players born here who felt disgruntled or discouraged to represent the Philippines in the future just because the federation chose to import players from the US.
If the FIFA disallowed naturalized players, which is the ideal one, the Philippines would have been forced to limit to only local soccer players even if this meant losing, or worse, will not qualify them to FIFA World Cup as history speaks for itself the Philippines did not qualify since 1991 not until 2023. The Philippines just made the right choice of importing players because for the first time it qualified for FIFA without applying emotions like how you sprouted here. You should have vent your anger to FIFA rather than to the Philippines.
If you are really true to your words that you wanted real Filipinos in international sports events, why don’t you send an emotional email to FIFA and FIBA encouraging them to limit local players only? Use your passion you have shown here in persuading FIFA and FIBA to change their player qualifications because there are rabid “nationalistic” or “patriotic” persons like you who only want to see full bloodied Filipino local players to play in any international sports events and are “allergic” to foreign players, so that next time the Philippines will not be tempted to choose foreigners. Maybe they will consider your plea.
There you go, so you understand Gogs that FIFA is a business, then why the fuzz applying emotions to FIFA allowing naturalized players? Consider FIFA or FIBA like the teams in the NBA who are shifting players and the fans don’t care. Like how the fans of denver nuggets celebrated overnight and whole day in the streets even knowing fully well that their best players are citizens from Serbia and Canada. Or the Milwaukee Bucks and Dallas Mavericks when their best players are citizens from Greece and Germany respectively.
Apples and oranges. The NBA franchise represents the choices of their front office. They have an amateur draft where college players and pro players from Europe are eligible. Pinoys are eligible actually, just not chosen . They have free agency where eligible players can sign with who they want. It has nothing to do with the city. The city pays the bills and hosts half of the games . You can’t tell me you didn’t know that. Oh yeah the PBA has the epal framework. You are not loyal to a city but a line of products. That is the pinoy way.
So Gogs you justify the NBA running purely on business side regardless of the citizenship of the players, and you ignored the local american fans celebrated in the streets yelling their own pride on their team championship regardless of their best players citizenship. You also defended FIFA running same pure business with the NBA, but you don’t want to apply this business concept to the Philippines in selecting its own soccer players to represent in FIFA World Cup which eligibility rules were created or instigated by FIFA itself and the Philippines is only a mere recipient. This concludes, based on the facts presented, that you really love to perpetuate and highlight your own biases against the Philippines, and it has nothing to do with objectivity, business, and patriotism.
Just go straight to the point and summarize your stance here like “I’m biased against the Philippines, and whatever you say, will not affect my personal biases against her” instead of running around the bush trying to deflect your own biases, you better address the core issues.
‘Those rules are in place because FIFA is a business.” – Gogs
“Apples and oranges. The NBA franchise represents the choices of their front office. They have an amateur draft where college players and pro players from Europe are eligible.” – Gogs
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FIFA is a business, so is the NBA. So why discriminate if they are all business?
You just contradicted yourself there.
“ The ladies were looking for a place to play and they found it in a place they had a marginal connection to.” – Gogs
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They are NOT “looking for a place to play”, they were recruited for their skills and qualification to play for the Philippine team.
Please do not make up stories to fit your narrative. That is simply wrong.
That is new to me . A world class soccer player who was not looking for a place to play and rather sit at home. You mean to say the women’s team of the US rejects nobody. Every single one of the 18 Americans on Team Philippines would be playing for Team USA if they were good enough. They simply executed Plan B . Hence the leftover theory which has been defined several times here in GRP. Pinoys have NBA dreams and PBA realities.
Gogs, where’s your proof that these 18 american women soccer players were indeed rejected by the US women’s team that’s why they executed plan b and play for the Philippines instead? Don’t make up stories without evidence because it is easy to make up stories. We need solid evidence to prove your statements are true.
“That is new to me . A world class soccer player who was not looking for a place to play and rather sit at home. You mean to say the women’s team of the US rejects nobody.” – Gogs
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That is really new to you because you have a very ridiculous idea about the issue. You see it on the level of race while it’s really about competition.
All your theories are bias-laden without any connection to what is really happening at real time. You don’t even question a rule or sports guidelines to prove your ridiculous contention of unfair treatment.
It is really a losing proposition on your part. In fact, NOBODY here supports your theory by seconding your motion. While those who disagrees with you were one in saying you’re theory is wrong.
Just because I won’t write about the SEA games Jason does not mean I make crap up. You expect me to believe your fantasy the US who won 4 World Cups. The Philippines pirated players away from the US and they scored one goal the whole tournament with players who chose to reject the US. Like I told you before . Japan in Asia and did not care about the SEA games but you expect the US to care about the players the Philippines ended up with. There were enough people who didn’t make the cut in the US to force Filipino residents out of the roster of the Philippine team.
“So the governing body shut out the locals.” – Gogs
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If that is true who are those locals that the governing body “shut out”? Why are they not coming forward to file a complaint? And who are those sports officials who did them wrong?
If there was an illegal act committed how come we haven’t heard of it?
I hope Gogs will come up with something concrete and true the next time he put up a post.
Like I said the currency of pansin is a narcotic. The pansin of being in the World Cup shut up the locals. That is quite a flattering portrayal of local athletes don’t you think Juan Luna. Not only are they not capable of playing soccer but not willing based on your last statement. I never said it was illegal. I said it is discouraging to the athletes born and bred here. They are shut out.
“I never said it was illegal. I said it is discouraging to the athletes born and bred here. They are shut out.” – Gogs
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But the problem is you cannot back up your allegation by naming names. I asked you to name names and you conveniently ignored it.
You want it to appear that locals have been shut out of competition and treated with disrespect because foreigner were allowed to play on the national team. But when asked who were the culprits to be held accountable, you went zero.
If you want, let’s just close this conversation and declare that your theory is ridiculous and does not respond accurately to the facts. And we can move on in other issues.
Gee , for someone consumed with ad hominem suddenly you ask me to produce testimony of people who are not allowed on the team. The local federation produced a roster and no locals on it except one. Their actions speak so loud I don’t have to listen to your ad hominem.
” I said it is discouraging to the athletes born and bred here. They are shut out.” – Gogs
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They are shut out you said, so who where these people and why are they not talking?
Also, I don’t know what’s ad hominem in that. I’m beginning to doubt that you really know the meaning it but you still you keep on using it for distraction.
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“…you ask me to produce testimony of people who are not allowed on the team.” – Gogs
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“People who are not allowed on the team” you said. If you can pinpoint the people how come you cannot identify them? Again, where is ad hominem there?
You are not being responsive. You are quick to allege but too slow to support your allegations. That is the problem.
“Like I said the currency of PANSIN is a narcotic. The PANSIN of being in the World Cup shut up the locals.” – Gogs
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And what exactly does ‘pansin’ mean in sports? What is the relevance of ‘pansin’ on a wayward allegations you are spouting here? Do the country and its people get monetary value with the ‘pansin’ you’re talking about? What is it really?
Is Gogs portraying himself now as someone who champions the locals’ cause? It will not happen.
Gogs is in denial. He shut them all out… everyone and everything local in all of his writings. This shutting out, he has written or commented on somewhere here are all documented.
On the contrary, he even wrote once that he’s into preserving the classics… not of locals of course but of everything foreign.
If he thinks what I’m saying isn’t true, then, by all means, he can prove me wrong by showing something or anything he has written that’s pro-local.
What he has written here is actually more about himself than a supposed support and care about the local athletes and the local sports scene.
Gogs is clueless about the existence of published books written about Philippine football… by a Filipino economist, professor and author Dr. Bernardo Villegas, Ph.D. and former Kaya and Union Football club coach Maor Rozen, an Uruguayan, who coached for 10 years in the Philippines and conducted football clinics for both players and coaches alike throughout the country.
Gogs doesn’t have a true writer’s depth and ability to devote something like a Rick Olivares who has dedicated a series of articles about The State of Philippine Football.
http://bleachersbrew.blogspot.com/2009/02/state-of-philippine-football-part-1.html
So what ?? Why don’t you show me the true appreciation and application of Philippine football? There would be no need for a paper . Show me attendance and participation. True depth?? No pinoy born player trained here played in the World Cup and you are talking about true depth ? Where does one go in a city like Manila with about 10 million people to take in a football game?? If they do , how many bother to show up? You give me a link. I just asked for functioning infrastructure. Show me a link of locals playing and enjoying a soccer game maybe beyond friends and family.
I beg for your forgiveness that when I did the research for this piece , I searched sports articles and the website of the PFF. I did not venture into economics blogs.
“Why don’t you show me the true appreciation and application of Philippine football?” – Gogs
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“Football has a long history in the archipelago, dating back to more than 100 years ago when Paulino Alcántara Riestra became the first Filipino and Asian player to play for a European club.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_in_the_Philippines
I suggest you read the above for proper guidance and enlightenment.
Long history resulted in what exactly?? 18 US born, 1 Canadian born, 1 Australian born , 1 Norweigan born out of 23 roster spots on Team Philippines. You think I need enlightment?? PROUD TO BE PINOY !!!
It’s the history of football in the country. If you find it useless, fine. I was just helping you acquire knowledge on a sport you seemed ignorant of.
Instead of playing with balls, how about reading Satre, studying chemistry, physics, writing symphonies. naaah,
Failipines–tushy shaking, rapper nonsense, copy catting the degenerate/debased us empire, anglo worship, gleefully riding in cancer causing – jeepney imperialistic USAin war monger cars. Maybe have a new zoo in manilla, isn’t that what those wonderful USAins did to the Pilipinos-they put us in human zoos for their WASPY entertainment
I think there is the one library near the post office in downtown Manila. Any other libraries here that are not located inside schools? Oh yeah, cockfighting is more of a priority.
It’s quite bizarre. “Simping” for the Failipines. They’re USAin simps. They’re mainly feckless and are simply obese sleep walkers through life. It’s sad. Ontologically, intellectually, and spiritually. Most are and were empty. Like their US overlords.
The ontology of Filipinos is really remarkable, as if they are simply fated to eat their own pride when its shit inside out. From its ancestral, historical, colonial, down to the contemporary state of its nation is in an ouroboros of wanting real change yet despise real change. They still need validation of outsiders to do their thing, they’re just a husk of a race.