Here we go again, pinoy mediocrity is the problem and the powers that be think the solution is more of the same. Jinggoy Estrada made news suggesting he might pursue a ban of Korean shows. Not to be “outdone” Robin Padilla wants a tariff on imported shows. Why can’t you two accept the fact that Filipino movies and TV year round cater to the baduy and only the baduy? When foreign entertainment get sponsors and ticket sales did it ever occur to you it is because their content is intellectually more appealing than what is churned out locally? Padilla claims people have lost their jobs in the industry. Job loss tends to happen when companies produce products of inferior quality.
Pinoy showbiz is world class??? Since when??
I don’t care how many times I have to say it. Whatever you call entertainment be it TV shows, movies, athletics , food the world pretty much skips the Philippines. Whatever their pain threshold for baduy is easily satisfied by a niche in their local market unlike the Philippines where the whole entertainment pie is comprised by baduy and there is no niche for anything that requires braincells. Estrada believes local talent is world class because his family is considered by this country as talented. Somebody forgot to tell the rest of the world. KSP is the root of all evil and apparently the root of all delusion.
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Tariffs are there to protect and reward inferior and inefficient products
Some people see the glass as half empty , some see the glass as half full. Some people saw the first Olympic Gold Medal in 2021 as a cause of great celebration. I saw it as par for the course considering how many countries have more than single digit gold medals in every single Olympics. Hate to break it you but the Philippines cares less about sports than it even does about quality TV. Where else in this country do you see passion for any sport other than basketball? Basketball is the only sport that can draw some semblance of a crowd. I am not the least bit surprised that the one Olympic gold in the history of this nation happened in a woman’s sport since all the men still believe that basketball is the sole path to athletic pansin.
Just so you and I can be on the same page, let’s agree on a working definition of baduy. Baduy is anything or anybody severely lacking in the following traits: wit, reverence, originality, irony, self awareness, nuance, IQ and dignity. Our local TV industry operates on a 3 word mandate : appeal to baduys. The great Colin Cowherd often says ratings are the truth serum. Show me pinoy ratings gold and I doubt you will show me anything that even MENSA can comprehend.
When the metrics say your industry is hurting and limp why not bring up looks to placate the baduy? I guess all the screaming girls at KPOP concerts are wrong and you are right.
I am not a Korean entertainment fanboy by any stretch of the imagination but there is merit there. I have seen Song Kang-ho in three movies (Memories of a Murder, Parasite and A Taxi Driver) none of them in English. Toss in Oldboy (2003) , Burning ( 2018) and the Netflix hit Squid Games and I guarantee you nothing there will remind you of pinoy TV.
Strength does not need protection. Quality does not need protection. Inferior goods require protection. The market place is reality. The reality is pinoy entertainment is not sought after anywhere in the world and some politicians are proposing that it needs elimination of superior competitors in order to survive. Too bad those politicians will rarely look at jumpstarting the cerebral prowess of the producers of our local content and / or the audience. Oh yeah, I forgot who the dad of one of those politicians is and his contribution to the intellect of the country.
Ironically I want to close this diatribe by citing a locally made forty year old movie. Peque Gallaga’s Oro, Plata, Mata was set in Negros Occidental during World War II. Throughout the whole movie, the threat was always made out to be the invading Japanese. The danger was out there. In reality the only danger was internal. A bitter, entitled local who could care less about the collective and who was only in it for himself.
Putting a very sharp needle into the balloon known as Pinoy Pride since 2012.
I do not watch Pinoy and Korean shows but I am familiar with how the market works. Produce a product that SUCKS then it would not be patronized against a SUPERIOR quality product. The way to compete is not to ban the competition but to produce better products. Pinoys simply have to produce better shows. It’s simple, really.
I agree. If there’s a competition, then either produce better products or just close down and leave, it’s really as easy as that. The protectionism in Philippines is a cancer in the country’s economy which should be removed. If it wasn’t removed, then Philippines will most likely be a 3rd world country with highly imbalanced living conditions forever and ever. Banning competition simply because it’s better is a clear sign of laziness, incompetence and the inability to be better.
The problem there is many of them still have protectionist mindset. The “support local” mindset is pure rubbish yet many people still have it. I won’t support a product or company just because it’s local, I support what’s best for me or what suits my needs the most, simple as that.
I have no problem on protecting Pinoy entertainment. If it’s Baduy to others, well it is so because Pinoy likes it to be and they are the one patronizing it. And if we can make the industry a success by protecting it against unfair competition, let’s continue to protect it. Why deny the consumers the product they want? Now, if the scenario is the industry is losing money, the entertainment people are their losing jobs for contraction in consumption from the public, then that’s the only time to look at other options to make the situation better.
“And if we can make the industry a success by protecting it against unfair competition, let’s continue to protect it.”
Really? How is being better unfair? How is producing better products unfair? If companies or businesses, are losing in the competition because they cannot produce better products, then they should just close down, is it hard to understand? It’s not rocket science.
“Why deny the consumers the product they want?”
That’s the problem with protectionism, it’s close to denying consumers the product they want by either banning foreign products or imposing heavy taxes on those products.
Protectionism turned Philippines into a failure. As long as all forms of protectionism are not abolished, then Philippines will always be a joke. Abolish all forms of protectionism for that country to start a path to greatness.
https://correctphilippines.org/filipino_first_fail/
If companies or businesses, are losing in the competition because they cannot produce better products, then they should just close down, is it hard to understand? It’s not rocket science. – No Data
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I agree, why continue if it’s losing? However, if it’s a successful endeavor and continues to support the economy why will you close or not protect it?
That’s the problem with protectionism, it’s close to denying consumers the product they want by either banning foreign products or imposing heavy taxes on those products. – No Data
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Banning foreign products has to have merits to qualify and if imposing heavy taxes will greatly help the economy, I’m all for it.
You want imported goods? You should pay for it if you can afford it but let the ‘baduys’ enjoy their stuff by not denying them.
I am not sure how both things can be true. If ” the Pinoy likes it to be” then why are pinoys losing jobs and they are trying to shut out things that I guess the pinoys do not like. If ” the Pinoy likes it to be” then we will not be having this conversation since there is no threat to ban. Dare I say baduy is wearing out its welcome ?
For one Jinggoy Estrada’s statement makes for a chicken or an egg scenario. Will banning foreign competition the solution or is raising the quality of the industry’s output the right move to regain back people’s support? Well, I guess that’s speaks of the kind of lawmakers we have nowadays, inferior.
While I do not see anything wrong on the idea advanced by this article but, like Jinggoy’s statement, it’s faulty at best for it is barking at the wrong tree. Labeling a group by practically tagging them as stupid or imbecile is not the way to go in addressing a problem. They are not responsible for the inferior output.
Low quality product needs to be improved to get the desired result. That’s for starter. Do we have to ban competition from foreigners and call the locals nitwits to drive home our point? Obviously not. I mean, there’s a total ban and there’s limitation. I prefer the latter. How about government support, incentives like exemptions or tax breaks will go along away for the capitalists and workers in the industry. I mean, all I’m saying is we have lots of options and tools to jump start to uplift and improved the industry.
Support local? Remove the support local mindset, it’s a backward mindset. There’s no need to limit foreign products. Like the article said, tariffs are there to protect and reward inferior and inefficient products. I’ll add that tariffs promotes laziness and anti-consumerism. There’s also no need for the gov’t to support local companies just because they’re local companies.
Labelling a group . I did label the TV/ film industry here:
Now one way to show me the error in my ways is show me the intellectual product the industry generates year round.
Nope, the labelling started with the title and went on down to defining who are these people you’re talking about. Here’s what I’m referring to:
“Just so you and I can be on the same page, let’s agree on a working definition of baduy. Baduy is anything or anybody severely lacking in the following traits: wit, reverence, originality, irony, self awareness, nuance, IQ and dignity.” – Gogs
Why not just say Baduys are stupid, dunce, dolt, halfwit, moron, a fool?
Lost in your narrative of disparage was the classification of people who participates in the exercise of watching what you call ‘Pinoy mediocrity’. Maybe you belonged to the A – B class crowd who looks down and discriminate against the poor segment of the population who cannot afford the kind of convenience and comfort you have. Don’t you think it’s brazenly unfair to measure the level of their wants, their taste and their needs to the level of your standard?
Just think about it.
Support local? Remove the support local mindset, it’s a backward mindset. – No Data
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Remove the support? You don’t have a replacement to the one you’re removing? That’s the worst kind of advice you can give. You’re not solving the problem, you’re ignoring it.
There’s no need to limit foreign products. Like the article said, tariffs are there to protect and reward inferior and inefficient products. I’ll add that tariffs promotes laziness and anti-consumerism. There’s also no need for the gov’t to support local companies just because they’re local companies. – No Data
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No need to limit foreign products? Let’s just kill the domestic industry and rely on foreign imports? You think any right thinking person will accept that kind of bizarre view?
Look, the lawmakers are offering solutions to the problem. You may not agree with it but you have to counter-propose to expand the conversation to a fruitful one and not completely ignore everybody and what they’re saying and just do nothing. That is not solving a problem that’s exacerbating it.
Bizzare? Try to read this again.
https://correctphilippines.org/filipino_first_fail/
The Filipino First policy is a cancer in the Philippine economic growth.
If domestic companies want to survive, then they should either strive to be better or just close down and leave, is it really hard? Like I said, it’s not rocket science. I really don’t support any company’s national origin, I just buy what’s best for me regardless of where they’re made in. Imposing tariffs is like punishing foreign companies for being better than domestic companies which is unfair.
If domestic companies want to survive, then they should either strive to be better or just close down and leave… – No Data
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Anybody can say what you are saying. The point is you are not advancing any idea that will even help alleviate the situation. You don’t like what’s being proposed and you are against protectionism, so what’s to do? Just allow foreigners inside and operate without guidelines or following established laws all for the sake of ‘saving’ the country? You think that will work?
You are saying something and I know your intention but you have not clearly define what are those that you want to propose that will address the issue in the entertainment industry.
Read the title of the blog carefully.
The baduy refers to people , baduy without “ the “ refers to the mentality / culture . Is there anything more Pinoy that must live on than the baduy mentality? Please show me anything MSM that is not baduy??? Nothing reinforces the point behind this blog than the prevalence of baduy . The overwhelming presence of it in one industry. Don’t shoot me . I am just a humble messenger . You are more mad at me for using the word than you should be at an industry that is incapable of underestimating the discretion and shallowness of its audience. Two politicians believe that baduy should be valued and preserved. Leadership in this country believes baduy comes before all. I am merely stating the obvious . The whole industry that shapes “minds” has no nuance or dignity or refinement and you are more mad at me than the actual industry for spreading what it spreads. The message is clear and the message is to be baduy. Please prove me wrong.
You are more mad at me for using the word… – Gogs
…you are more mad at me than the actual industry for spreading what it spreads. – Gogs
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Oh, please, stop. Nobody is mad at you for discriminating against people you think is not in your level. You hate the ‘baduys’ because they’re intellectually inferior to you and their IQ is on their toenails. Got it.
Your hubristic view diverted the focus on the real issue because you resorted to mockery which highlighted instead your sentiment rather than the problem and the characters involved in it. Was there really an effort from your end to advance a solution to help solve the problem or you’re just channelling your frustration against people you abhor?
That I’d like to know.
@Juan Luna, my idea for the entertainment industry is to be better or leave. The problem with Philippine drama series is they reuse same concepts, especially love triangle and having illegitimate child which are very overused. Why not think of something new?
Anyway, I never said that foreigners should be allowed to disobey laws and guidelines, I am against protectionism and tariffs. Protectionism and tariffs are backward mentality and pure rubbish, those are for losers who cry because they can’t handle competition.
Support local? What if anything produced locally is baduy? Then it is really code for support baduy . Life is short . Support quality . How many of you whiskey drinkers go into a bar in Manila and demand White Castle?? How many of you see it on the menu ? There is your support local .
@Juan Luna, my idea for the entertainment industry is to be better or leave. – No Data
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What? It’s like saying to a toddler ‘behave or leave the house’. That is not how you solve domestic problem. You start with identifying what the problem is; then you seek cooperation and consult with the concerned people or group to find common ground or cooperation on how to go about addressing and eventually solving the problem for everybody’s benefit.
The problem with Philippine drama series is they reuse same concepts, especially love triangle and having illegitimate child which are very overused. Why not think of something new?
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Agree, you have something new in mind? If yes, that should be the matter we’re talking about here instead of suggesting getting rid of an industry if it wouldn’t deliver.
Protectionism and tariffs are backward mentality and pure rubbish, those are for losers who cry because they can’t handle competition.
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Not necessarily, our entertainment industry cannot be compared or even compete with Hollywood or even Bollywood. We have a small market, if we allow competitions without boundaries against big companies you think our industry will survive? You have to protect the weak from the strong, the don’t haves to the haves to be able to thrive and survive. It is pure common sense.
@Juan Luna you’re saying it’s like saying to a toddler “behave or leave the house”? Your argument is invalid the moment you said that because why are you comparing the entertainment industry to that?
I didn’t automatically say to get rid of the industry, they should use new concepts, not reuse same concepts and throw whatever garbage they produce using the same concepts at people.
Free trade without tariffs is important. It’s really unfair to the customers to “penalize” them by making them pay more just to support local products. This will sound rude but why should we care if local companies close down because they can’t compete? It doesn’t matter, I don’t care as long as I get what I want without being “penalized” with additional taxes to support companies which I don’t even care about and as a customer, what’s more important is I get what I want without these burdensome protectionist taxes or tariffs. Like I said, if local industries cannot compete, then close down, it’s easy. It’s not our problem that they can’t compete with foreign competitors and it’s not our fault so why would they bother us with it? Why would they involve us to protect local businesses? Being local or not is irrelevant, whether the country’s industry gets dominated by foreign investors or not is also irrelevant as long as customers get to choose freely without having additional burdens. Protectionism and tariffs discourage innovation and promote laziness. There’s a saying “survival of the fittest”. Besides, I’m sure that many of these local companies don’t even care about the people.
@no_data- that is pretty much it. The market is about choice. The fact that they are proposing to eliminate choice shows you that they don’t believe in the quality of what is made here. TV shows around the world get cancelled all the time. The market will tell you what is quality, not some pro showbiz senator. Why should we be deprived of choice?? Communists do that.
@Juan Luna you’re saying it’s like saying to a toddler “behave or leave the house”? Your argument is invalid… — No Data
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Believe me it’s a perfect example. Why? You are giving an ultimatum to the industry (be better or leave) just like an adult telling on a child. What could be a better example than that?!
I didn’t automatically say to get rid of the industry, – No Data
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I agree but leaving or a threat of such repercussion should not be on the table in addressing to improve the industry’s output. It’s a bad strategy.
Free trade without tariffs is important. – No Data
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Why? I don’t see any logic on that.
This will sound rude but why should we care if local companies close down because they can’t compete? – No Data
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Yes, it’s rude. I assume that like me, you are not from the industry also. It is really easy to talk and be arrogant when your skin is not in the game. You don’t feel anything on the people you do not share a bond or camaraderie with. I do not know exactly the ins and outs of the industry myself but just the same I commiserate with them, with their concern, with their problem. Unlike you, I care because we are dealing with people’s lives here and indirectly the country’s economic lifeline, so to speak.
Like I said, if local industries cannot compete, then close down, it’s easy. – No Data
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And we go back to my ‘toddler’ example again. See, it is not really like telling a child to behave or be gone. You are not really helping solving a problem by resorting to ultimatums.
It’s like seeing a man drowning and instead of throwing a life preserver (salbabida) or do something to save him, you yell, “swim or you die!”. That’s not how you confront a problem if your intention is to solve it.
It’s not our problem that they can’t compete with foreign competitors and it’s not our fault so why would they bother us with it? – No Data
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There goes that arrogance again. You think unemployment is not a problem? Children out of school because their parents cannot support them, etc.?
Why would they involve us to protect local businesses? – No Data
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Because a successful local businesses is a success for the country. Do I really need to say that?
Being local or not is irrelevant, whether the country’s industry gets dominated by foreign investors or not is also irrelevant as long as customers get to choose freely without having additional burdens. Protectionism and tariffs discourage innovation and promote laziness. – No Data
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Now, I say you just told us who you are, a highly opinionated, overweening, uppity, scornful and a bumptious individual. I say, you will never be able to solve a simple problem like improving quality outputs because you are so blinded by your snottiness.
This says something more about those who hold capital for film making than Filipinos who like to watch such things.
If there was an audience for shows that require listening, contemplation and scrutiny, don’t you think the industry would try to satisfy it?? My philosophy has always been that mass media is a mirror of it’s audience. If the Philippines magically got a 50 point IQ raise across the board then noon time programming will magically change with it.
Certainly there is a considerable Filipino audience who want better content. If the industry of film makers thought enough about how art affects the audience instead of just relying on the trend because that’s where the money is, this wouldn’t have to be an endless argument.
Yes, says something about the class of Filipinos who are supposedly capital-rich. Note how the dumbest political ideology that characterised the Opposition in this year’s election took deep root in the Philippines’ most exclusive and most expensive schools.
Probably because of the abstraction of wealth that tends to inflate the sense of ego and power in some people. Assigning values the way we do now is detaching and disconnecting us from reality.
It seems you’re probably talking about the writer of this article in some way.
…i am guessing that the banning suggested by two prominent senators with showbiz background is part of the marketing strategy for the local etertainment industry… the baduy market seems to generate some profit
Seriously, claiming to be more handsome than South Koreans is irresponsible, especially when implying plastic surgery. Remember when several people there wanted to cancel Korea in social media? Now there’s a senator who said something irresponsible about Koreans.
I agree with you on that and we’ll be getting those kinds of statements in the future because of the kind of people we’re electing. You elect an actor full of braggadocio, you get those irresponsible and arrogant pronouncement.
I remember when Amo on Netflix came out and they described it as the Filipino Version of Narco’s…. Ahhh how very wrong they were!! Lol!! Tbh Filipino TV/Films are just not as good as other countries maybe it just wasn’t meant to be. Bring Kingdom Season 3 FFS!! I’ve been waiting for ages! Lol!
When I was in grade school , TSOP or The Sound of Philadelphia had a hit called MFSB. Somebody locally did what they did best and inserted the lyrics ” Mami Siopao”. Pinoys will always do cheap imitations of real hits from abroad because KSP has always been the root of all evil.
I was right all this time to reject offers/invitations and peer pressure/prodding/instigations to venture into showbiz and became an actor. Otherwise, I will need to stomach the rotten system, customs, routine and rules of Philippine Entertainment Industry and I will just became an instrument for the wicked desires of the Oligarchs.
Hence my point. If you believe in the notion of GIGO. We all know the output of this industry they are trying to protect.
Let me be very clear on two things. The industry’s output is 100% baduy . Number 2 – powers that be expect us to be happy with their product and alternatives to baduy be damned.
Let me be very clear on two things. The industry’s output is 100% baduy . Number 2 – powers that be expect us to be happy with their product and alternatives to baduy be damned. – Dogs
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You are clear and let me categorically say you are lying through your teeth when you said that statement. Obviously, you completely ignored some of the facts below when you wrote this article.
TWO FILIPINO FILMS BAGGED MAJOR AWARDS AT THE 2022 SUNDANCE FILM FESTIVAL
https://nylonmanila.com/filipino-films-award-wins-2022-sundance-film-festival/
7 Award-Winning Filipino Movies To Watch On Netflix 2021
https://www.tatlerasia.com/culture/arts/award-winning-filipino-movies-on-netflix
The best Filipino films of 2020
https://www.cnnphilippines.com/life/entertainment/Film/2021/1/5/best-filipino-films-of-2020.html
You are making my point for me.
It is you who are lying. It is the exception that proves the rule- assuming you heard the expression. The baduy don’t flock to those and it is the baduy that are the bread and butter of the pinoy entertainment industry. Don’t give me outliers. You know damn well when those movies are in the drawing board that the producers are thinking film festival and not local market. Thank you for the direct personal accusation. I really appreciate that .
The industry’s output is 100% baduy. Gogs
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See what you are mocking and lying about in that line, ‘the industry’ not the baduy. I showed facts to prove that your assertion about the industry is a blatant lie and you responded talking about the baduy? What’s the obsession about the baduy?
Gogs the lie that you made should be a disqualifier for writing on this blog. Ever heard of the word ‘credibility‘?
An apology from you for skewing facts and for showing contemptuous behavior would be a better response for both of us to move past from this one-sided disputation.
@NoData- “Being local or not is irrelevant, whether the country’s industry gets dominated by foreign investors or not is also irrelevant as long as customers get to choose freely without having additional burdens. Protectionism and tariffs discourage innovation and promote laziness.”
So the solution being proposed is total reliance to foreign countries. And the suggestion to limit the Philippines simply as a raw materials supplier economy? Interesting…
If you believe what you believe, then, what was the Philippine experience during the height of the pandemic? Well, we and other third world nation had to wait in line, at the mercy of the first world, to rely for even the basic covid-19 supplies because we as a nation failed to produce and manufacture our own for our own needs. You can recall, Duterte even had to give the ‘greedy’ west a mouthful to seek their attention because of near desperation to the mounting national health crisis.
Again, colonial mentality is a sick surrender mentality… a lazy thinking mentality.
Narcissistic Gogs begins and ends with the baduy argument, with the familiar absence of any relevant issues that surrounds it, so as to dishonestly satisfy his perverted excuse for all personal western consumption fetish.
You compare and contrast this write up with the one of benigno’s and you’ll realize what I mean.
At the outset, benigno is clear cut with what he intends to convey (same with ben Kritz, antonio contreras and others too):
“To what end do these idiotic programmes serve Filipinos aspirations to become a great people someday? Will these contribute to transforming the Philippines from a Third to a First World country over the next two to three decades? The argument around whether the Philippines’ entertainment industry needs more — or less — competition misses the point entirely. What it really comes down to is whether Filipinos need these sorts of content pumped into their screens and living rooms to begin with.”
And Gogs’ piece says nothing but is all about himself. We are scammed.
So you believe eliminating superior product from the market that competes with local offerings is good in the long run. You can call me narcissistic though having more pinoy product in a market where people obviously are looking for something else is narcissistic of the industry not me. That is a you problem. Only communists eliminate outside voices. If we are going to be scared of competition then what happened to all these cheers of PROUD TO BE PINOY!!! You pointed out all the dependencies . Proud to be pinoy indeed.
If we are going to be scared of competition… – Gogs
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I know of nobody that I read on this thread even insinuate about fearing competition. I and the others who questions the idea espouse by your article see it as the wrong strategy and is not really an attempt to help but just to ridicule, mock and insult, which is to you is, the ‘others’.
Competition is healthy, good and welcome in most cases, let us be clear on that. What is not healthy, good and welcome are the insults, the diatribes, the mockery against people whose only fault was to patronize the kind of entertainment they like and they can afford. Do you really have to insult people and call them ‘baduy’ just because they cannot afford the kind of entertainment that is regular and ordinary among your kind?
I say, you are not seeking solution, Gogs, you are creating a problem.
@JD did you even read this article? I didn’t say to limit Philippines as the supplier. All I’m saying is companies should offer better products or if they can’t handle competition, then the door is open for them to leave. Look at Singapore, they were aggressive in attracting foreign investors, Lee Kuan Yew even stressed the importance of free trade. Imposing heavy taxation on foreign products just because they’re better is like punishing foreign companies for being better. Let me quote what Sir Donald Tsang said again.
“Any economist will tell you that when you keep foreign businesses out you simply hurt your own people,”. Protectionism is a big reason why cost of living in Philippines is as high as cost of living in first world countries, because commodities are expensive due to protectionism. Phones, gadgets, electronics and cars are expensive because of protectionism.
https://correctphilippines.org/filipino_first_fail/
You’re calling Gogs narcissistic? Really? You’re resorting to ad hominem in a proper discussion or civil debate? Only losers use ad hominem in a civil debate.
Also, how is not caring if Ph companies close down a colonial mentality? It’s not because as a customer, I don’t care about a product’s national origin, I just want to buy the product I want without additional burdens just to help failing companies. Supoorting protectionism is very selfish because you want people to buy local products or be penalized for buying foreign products. Why do you need inferior local products if there are better and superior foreign products anyway? For the rubbish sense of pride?
Look at Singapore… – No Data
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So, you’re telling us Singapore has a successful entertainment industry like Hong Kong, Japan or India?
And what’s this obsession to compare RP with Singapore? Are they really the same on geography, population, economy, etc.?
@Juan Luna Singapore was once a third world country but their free trade and anti-protectionism system helped catapult the country into becoming a first world country. Protectionism advocates here proved that they learned nothing from Singapore and have no knowledge about basic economics.
The problem with your analogy is you assume RP and Singapore are exactly the same. We’re also talking about the entertainment industry. I have no memory of any movie coming from Singapore having an impact outside it’s territory; Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan we’re also non-Singaporean. So, what’s their entertainment industry got to do with ours?
Let me be honest and blunt. Needing to resort to protectionism to protect your country’s local products in the entertainment industry shows that even in the entertainment industry, your country’s products are garbage.
Let me be honest and blunt. Needing to resort to protectionism to protect your country’s local products in the entertainment industry shows that even in the entertainment industry, your country’s products are garbage. – No Data
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So, any country that protect their local industry through protectionism means their product is garbage? Umm, that’s weird.
@Juan Luna if you want to hurt your fellow countrymen, then go ahead, hurt them. Protectionism will accomplish nothing, it will just hurt your own people. I’m not willing to sacrifice any money for that but at least I don’t want people to suffer because of protectionism. If you really love your country, then you should be advocating to abolish all forms of protectionism in the country.
I still have no idea why you defend politicians who have roots in the TV production industry eliminating competition to their product which they admit is suffering from competition that does it better? Then they give the classic pinoy “pogi ” argument. You also seem to want less choices not more. You also seem to want to reward inefficiency and a very narrow appeal.
I still have no idea why you defend politicians… – Gogs
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I also have no idea why you’re accusing me of defending politicians which I actually criticized while conversing with you and No Data. I have no love lost for those celebrity politicians, I don’t think they belong in public office. Most of them know nothing about politics and a lot of them see politics as a mere fall back position when their days are over in showbiz.
I disagree actually with what they’re saying but I disagree more on the premise of your’s and No Data’s contention for being racist or discriminatory against people you see as outside of your group. Look, you’re too obsess to mock the masses that you will even resort to lying just to drive home your point. Not good.
Baduy or not if there are reasons to assist the entertainment industry within what the government can do, I’m all for it. I’m not going to attack those people who patronizes movies that they understand and associate with. I go by the principle of everybody having a seat on the table. I’m not going to discriminate and call people names just because I happen to dislike the kind of entertainment they enjoy and afford.
“how is not caring if Ph companies close down a colonial mentality?”
It’s quite obvious that because of that loser mentality plus apathy you’re not even aware about this thing called ‘The Dodds Report’ and how the Philippines attempt at Industrialization in the 1970s through the 1980s was prevented all these years through IMF conditionalities. You ought to know better!
https://businessmirror.com.ph/2015/11/29/americas-anti-industrialization-policy-for-the-phl-dodds-report/
It might interest you also how come the Philippines doesn’t have its own car brand.
Even a simple guy understands the issue.
It doesn’t matter if a Filipino car brand exists or not, what matters is customers get to choose products to buy regardless of their national origin without additional burdens just because local companies can’t handle the competition. Protectionism is the real loser mentality because they want to limit the foreign investors’ abilities just because they offer better products and people prefer their products. Those who support protectionism want to hurt their fellow countrymen without even realizing it because protectionism limits the customer’s choices and it’s unfair while having the mentality that being better is unfair.
“…because protectionism limits the customer’s choices…” – No Data
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Ah, that is the real reason why you don’t want protectionism, you want more choices in buying rather than having the government collect more revenues. For you, your personal need and comfort matters more than the personal need of the majority.
So, if there are more foreign brand goods to choose from the better. Kesehoda if the poor masses can afford it or not as long as your choice is satisfied. Again, that doesn’t make sense.
@Juan Luna, why don’t you argue with the author of this article and Sir Donald Tsang why they are wrong to say that keeping foreign businesses out will hurt your own people?
https://correctphilippines.org/filipino_first_fail/
Also, it’s obvious that nobody wants to be burdened just because local companies are unable to compete.
Besides, the gov’t can generate more revenue if all forms of protectionism are abolished and they do their best to attract foreign investors because more foreign investors will mean they can collect more taxes and the customers won’t get burdened with protecting local companies.
@Juan Luna, why don’t you argue with the author of this article and Sir Donald Tsang… – No Data
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No, thank you. Mr. Tsang, who once was embrangled with corruption issue, maybe a hero to you but not to me. Let’s just keep the conversation between ourselves.
@Juan Luna it’s really funny that you brought up corruption yet you accused me of wanting to have more choices than having the gov’t collect more revenues because Philippines is notoriously corrupt yet you’re willing to give more money to a highly corrupt gov’t and you accused Sir Donald Tsang of corruption? Look at your gov’t first, it’s so corrupt and incompetent, considering to impose protectionism even in the entertainment industry shows mediocrity. How pathetic, no wonder Philippines is still a 3rd world country. Seriously, most people who support protectionism there need to study economics.
@Juan Luna it’s really funny that you brought up corruption… – No Data
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No I did not. You introduce a corrupt Hong Kong official, I’m just reminding you of what you did. And I did not accuse Tsang of corruption, it’s in the headlines, internet, everywhere about stories of him committing misconduct in public office.
Go back on topic and stand by your view. Don’t drag those who are not in the conversation.
@Juan Luna we already talked about the topic and I did stand by my views, you couldn’t provide solid arguments to prove me wrong because your points in support of protecting local industries, including in entertainment industry is wrong, literally everything is wrong.
…your points in support of protecting local industries, including in entertainment industry is wrong, literally everything is wrong. – No Data
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Wrong like what ?
@Juan Luna defending protectionism itself is wrong. Did you even read the article I posted here several times? It’s related to this article Gogs wrote because it revolves around protectionism.
@Juan Luna defending protectionism itself is wrong. – No Data
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Not exactly. There’s pros and cons in the process and you’re just concentrating on the cons and I happened to disagree with your theory.
Filipinos can’t make a decent car brand because the monopolistic oligarchs who have the wherewithal to do so are content on making easy money: simply importing anything difficult to make and selling at a profit to feed the local consumption-driven economy.
Why doesn’t PLDT create its own smartphone brand? Why doesn’t Ayala make its own EV car brand? Why doesn’t SM go into semiconductors? Whoever is at the helm of these conglomerates lack vision and respect for the potential of Filipino talent.
The same goes to big content producers. Filipino film studios should be entering the 3D CG sci-fi realm with complex plots by now; instead they try to get by through the lazy route of kilig drama or slap-stick comedy.
We shouldn’t be surprised if Filipino actors/actresses end up with careers of just dubbing foreign films into Tagalog.
There is a shortage of visionary leadership in Filipino-run/owned industries. Until a Steve Jobs or Elon Musk of the Philippines arises, we will be getting nowhere.
So I am supposed to believe that overnight this is not true.
Yes, partly it is not true because of emphasis on exaggeration.
Gogs may kid himself all the time but he can’t hide the hollowness of his inner self with what he writes. He tries to compare with others but his output betrays him every time. He can, of course, lift his hand in protest but nothing escapes what’s out there and open for everyone to see. Most of Gogs’ output, if not all, are genuinely bereft of any true national collective aspiration. His proposition is dead end. It is snobbish, self-centered and shallow… it is baduy!
Gogs has this lingering confusion about what actually his end game is because there is actually none of it that he can speak of. The opportunity to do so is there for many years but his inability lies in his being consumed by a perverted preference to something outside of his true origin and identity. His desire obviously is a personal one, individualistic and non-conforming, though in a bad sense and taste, and that is to remain relevant by being a GRP parasite and to continue his becoming a consummated KSP to all things what is about The West.
The West with its unrequited love for Dogs.
So the solution is to just mandate baduy??
@zen why does it need to be conforming? It’s already 2022 so why do we need conformist ideas or system?
Aldo, what’s wrong with having preference outside of his true origin? If you think the “baduys” need to be protected, you should realize that it will just hurt your own country and people. Talking about Gog’s identity and nationality or not in this discussion to counter his argument is invalid.
What exactly is Gogs’ argument that needs to be countered? Can you please be more specific?
It’s funny that Gogs is not actually asserting a point but is now merely inquiring and No Data somehow can not state what is that ‘argument’ he is talking about.
Aren’t you describing local tv shows and love team movies?
On second thought, I take back everything I said. The world needs pinoy entertainment. Just like this.