Die Endlösung der Pinoy Dummheit. Is it just me, or does everything sound just that much more intimidating, menacing, or daunting in German? For those who don’t get the reference, the Nazis dubbed the plan of systematic execution of the Jews the final solution to the Jewish question – “die Endlösung der Judenfrage”.
Right from the start, let’s be honest with ourselves: this “final solution” is not set in stone, nor is it formally codified – yet. If it were, people with critical opinions and alternative voice bloggers like GRP, Anti-Pinoy and others would have already been tried for genocide in a Noytard kangaroo court.
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Let’s make a clear distinction here between Pinoy and Filipino. When we say Pinoy, this is the lazy, stupid, arrogant, hypersensitive, and apathetic whiner that we have all come to know and despise. The Pinoy responds with emotion. He/she thinks that President Noynoy Aquino is god and blindly accepts as gospel truth everything that comes out of his mouth. He/she jumps on bandwagons and is highly susceptible to the herd mentality. He/she regards Wil Time Bigtime as an educational show. His/her idea of a long-term investment is buying a lottery ticket every time there’s a scheduled lottery draw, or lining up in the morning in front of a TV studio hoping to qualify for a noontime show audience and bring home money.
“I think of a man, and I take away reason, and accountability.” Jack Nicholson in the movie “As Good As It Gets” may as well have been describing Pinoys with that line.
The Filipino, on the other hand, is the entity who has learned to use his brain. He/she is critical of the wrong things his/her government does. He/she dares to be more than Pinoy society is relegating him/her to be. He/she thinks rationally, unlike the Pinoy who is by default emotionally driven. He/she has learned to plan for the future by making sure he/she does not repeat the mistakes of the past. He/she has realized that the dysfunctional side of Filipino culture needs to change.
While I am not advocating that we round up all the morons in the Philippines and place them in concentration camps, the stupid Pinoy has to “die” so that the Filipino may live. The Filipino needs Lebensraum (habitat, or breathing room) in order to prosper. Imagine if we got rid of all the Pinoys; out of 90-100 million people, how many would be left?
We need to take note of a few big differences though: the Jews were conveniently blamed and used as scapegoats for the economic conditions at that time. The Pinoy, on the other hand, is the cause of his/her own social, economic, and political malaise that he/she is currently experiencing and living in. The Jews were persecuted because the National Socialists, with Adolf Hitler at the helm, convinced the Germans to believe that their weathering of the Great Depression meant that they were stealing from the Germans. The Pinoys think that they are always being persecuted because it is in their reflex to play the victim card every time something unfortunate happens to them. On top of that, they were convinced by a group of oligarchs that their own political enemies are the real reasons why Pinoys haven’t progressed an inch in more than two (2) decades.
That brings us to the biggest challenges in exterminating Pinoy stupidity. Pinoys are like cockroaches. There are so many of them that even if you can bring the largest boot you can find to step on them, you won’t get rid of them all. For every one you kill off, two, three, or even more will grow in its place. Most of them just keep escaping. I don’t think gassing them will work either; Pinoys are so used to inhaling toxic substances that any nerve toxin won’t most likely be as potent as we wish it to be. Besides, Pinoys are so full of laughing gas; they are known to laugh at their troubles, they think life is just one big joke, they don’t plan for the serious matters in life, and all they want to do is party. Hard labor? Forget it; the Pinoy is such an irritating whiner that it’s much easier, and more tempting, to shoot him/her than convince him/her that being compliant with regulations is much more beneficial to them in the long run.
Pinoys are resilient all right. Resiliently mediocre. Are you thinking about being frank with a Pinoy? Remember, they’re balat-sibuyas (hypersensitive) cry-babies. That irritating sobbing sound that you will hear will drown out any attempts you may have of talking rationally to him/her, and it gives them a reason to be indignant. Being nice to them won’t work either. With all their arrogance, many Pinoys regard the niceness of other people as something to be taken advantage of, or as a weakness. We need something that will break through the thick skull of the Pinoy in order to get our points across. We need a weapon.
“Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom is it aimed” – for all the atrocities that Joseph Stalin was known for, at least he got that quote right. As of now, education is the best solution we have against stupidity. People must be encouraged to read more. Where are more Efren Peñafloridas when they matter and are needed now, more than ever? They need to realize for themselves that their usual sources of information, ABS-CBN, Philippine Daily Inquirer, et al, are not the only ones available out there. The Internet and the library are great examples of places to find credible sources. Pinoys must be torn away from their Willing Willie shows and telenovelas. They need to learn for themselves that there is a world beyond dancing girls on TV, the rich vs poor conflict, and on publications making fun of its allies’ political enemies. And this is where sites like GRP are more than happy to help. You just need an open mind and to check your hypersensitivity at the door because we get very in-your-face here.
Let’s relate this to current events. Two words: Jessica Sanchez. Pinoys are once again hopelessly addicted to an American Idol contestant who is supposedly half-Filipina (not even whole, half), and propping her up and putting her on a pedestal as if she is the solution to all their problems in life. While this girl has talent, why she should be used as yet another symbol of empty and stupid Pinoy pride is beyond me.
Is the impeachment trial of Chief Justice Renato Corona really going to be the cure-all for corruption that PNoy and his government have been touting it to be? Only time will tell, but with the way that PNoy and the Senate have been posturing lately, it seems that the only thing they’re more interested in now is to keep themselves in the picture for the 2013 elections next year, and beyond.
Unfortunately, the trial has been shaped once again by PNoy and his media friends, who act like a megaphone by the way, to condition the public into believing that this is a fight of good against evil. Of course, PNoy is good and Corona is evil. Naturally, the Pinoys lapped it up like dogs.
The Philippines seems inevitably headed for an armed confrontation with China over the disputed Scarborough Shoal. The Pinoys, supported by their Dummführer (stupid leader) Noynoy Aquino, are protesting loudly like mad dogs in the hope that China will bow down to pressure from everyone else in the international community. First off, China has a reputation for not listening to foreigners, and for silencing noisy dissenters effectively. Second, they have clearly shown that any military force we have, they can easily counter with a lot less effort. Third, we cannot rely on the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) to save us because it doesn’t cover territorial disputes.
If it perhaps gets to the point that China just decides to bomb the Philippines to smithereens, they’ll actually be helping us eliminate all the stupid people here. Unfortunately, a good portion of Filipinos will be caught in the crossfire too. So this is a scenario that we absolutely must try to avoid. Of course, Pinoys don’t see it that way.
Maybe we need a peace offering to China. Send Noynoy Aquino on a slow boat, bound and gagged so that he can’t escape. Then tell the Chinese happy hunting.
Go ahead. Call me a bigot. Call me racist. I dare you to find even one sentence in this entire article, hell, even the entire site, that says that Filipinos are inferior to the rest of the world solely because it is their nature to be.
Are you part of the solution, or part of the problem? Are you a Pinoy or a Filipino? It’s up to you!
А вы, друзья, как ни садитесь, все в музыканты не годитесь. – But you, my friends, however you sit, not all as musicians fit.
Hm. Yup, I definitely agree that education should be our best weapon. But just recently, the customs office now adds tax (I’m not sure what it is we paid for, but it was ridiculously expensive) when it comes to claiming books. I don’t know how this came to pass when I remember a lot of us complained about it when pGMA’s people tried to do the same thing during her term. Anyway, I didn’t bother finding out what it was we paid for because I told my mom we could just order ebooks, which are cheaper. Still…not everyone can afford ereaders.
I also agree with an article written by National Artist F. Sionil Jose. We are shallow because we do not read. I did notice this. When I am in an MRT, everyone with androids and iOS gadgets would be playing mindless casual games, and I would be the only one (probably my sister too if she were with me) actually reading something on my gadget.
Sometimes I wonder if it’s “we are shallow because we do not read”, or “we do not read because we are shallow”? Either is applicable, but it’s a problem that should not even persist.
I do remember that tax on imported books. I don’t want to speculate on why they did that but the Bureau of Customs has always been a shady outfit.
I think you’re not alone. “PInoy” rhymes with “unggoy” or is it Pilipinong unggoy short for “Pinoy”? Try to observe, the Indians or “bumbay” have been motorcycling around the Philippines for many, many years but they’ve never been in the news for stupidity and crushing their brains against a truck or a stationary object. And it’s funny when a special interest group is prefixed “Pinoy___” it makes me think that it’s just a congregation of monkeys with a dialect 😀
Must be that turbans are better than crash helmets.
But then again, there are a lot of misguided ijets, monkeys on handlebars around. Make that on the steering wheel also, hence the monstrous traffic jams.
Nice one Fallen Angel! =)
I get the point of your article completely. In fact, I like the way you make a clear distinction between the “Filipino†(which is the good) and the “Pinoyâ€, which is the bad. While I may not have used “Pinoy” as the label for things which are bad, I appreciate your creative use of literary techniques to make your point.
I think I also understand your motivation in writing this. While I cannot obviously say for sure what your motivations are (I can’t afterall read your mind), my evaluation of the “spirit” of your article tells me that you mean well. You have a genuine desire to banish all that is “bad” and promote all that is good so that the Philippines can redeem itself.
All good. All laudable. Two thumbs up.
There are two major problems (major and major….lol) though that I have with your article (and with some others….maybe I am being too generous here…..actually with many of the other posts on this GRP site):
I. Oversimplication of Issues (things are actually more nuanced)
In this article, the oversimplication appears in your apparent belief that there is such an individual called a “Filipino” and another one who is a “Pinoy”.
Truth of the matter is that all of us have the Filipino in us as well as the Pinoy in us (GRP writers included). We are not a one dimensional people, we are multi-dimensional. And this is true not just for us but for everyone else in the world. People are not all “good”, there are also some “bad” in them. In fact, save in very fundamental cases, life isn’t all black and white, it is a million shades of grey.
I’d like to think that I possess some (actually, I am being too humble . . . .I actually possess a lot) of the traits that you admiringly call “Filipino.” But truth of the matter is that I also possess some of the traits that you brand as “pinoy”. Does having some “pinoy” traits make me less of a Filipino?
The answer . . . every Pinoy act we make diminishes us a little . . . .but having those Pinoy traits does not make me less of a Filipino too. (I hope people understand the different levels I am talking about).
To those who missed the point – – -every act that detracts from the ideal (Pinoy acts vs. Filipino acts) diminishes the ideal. But the fact that we do something less than ideal is part and parcel of what we are (we are a people with both Filipino and Pinoy traits….no one group among Filipinos has a monopoly of all things Filipino and another group, all things Pinoy)
In fact, in my own way, I do my best to bring out the best in my human nature so that those good human traits get recognized not only for my benefit and society’s benefit but can be associated by people as the “Filipino” in me.
Let’s be clear: I am not extolling certain “pinoy” habits and ways of thinking. I am totally on board with your assessment that certain “traits” are not helpful in making our country great. I will join you in completely rejecting the “pinoys”….those who you consider completely and utterly lacking of any kind of redemptive value.
I am sure if you met me in person, you’d actually consider me a Filipino. Maybe because of my education, background, progressive way of thinking, and good looks (lol) etc. But will it surprise you to know that I, whom I think you can consider as an “intellectual elite” – as referred to in the GRP Manifesto – actually is cheering Jessica Sanchez on and hoping that she’d win American Idol? I am actually based in Canada and can’t vote for her. But if I lived in the US, I would be happy to vote for her. My motivations might be different from the motivations of others, but I surely will vote for her. Does this disqualify me from now being considered Filipino?
Or, the fact that I respect President Aquino. I agree with him at times but also disagree with him at times. Will the fact that I agree with many of the things he does qualify me as a blind Aquino follower? I can make a parallel argument and say that in fact, you appear to be an Aquino hater no matter what (almost making you as despicable as a blind follower of the guy…..as you’re just the other side of the same “blind†coin).
Trust me, I have issues with many things Aquino does too. But I will not use over the top rhetoric and condemn all those who agree with Aquino. Again, you seem to think that people are on one side or the other, and being on the side that happens to be not your side is the most stupid, condemnable thing in the world. In most instances, people will have a more nuanced view of things.
This you vs us dichotomy is actually one of the “Pinoy” traits that we should do away with (I can make an argument that this is not a Pinoy trait but a human trait). I guess you will not begrudge me if I say that you, just like the rest of us, also has her/his “pinoy” traits. If there’s one trait that “pinoys” should do away with, it is this us vs them mentality….that one who doesn’t agree with me is my “enemy” or is “less Filipino” or “less patriotic” than me.
Maybe your over the top rhetoric is really just an expression of partisanship – – something which is part and parcel of a working democracy. If that’s the case, then I respect that. But I hope those writing in the GRP blog will realize that “the burden is on us to urge leaders to be as partisan as their hearts dictate they must—but be as practical as their heads tell them they should.” Of course, that burden is not only that of our leaders but also your…my….and our burden.
I’m pretty confident that people like you will not condemn me and suddenly consider me unworthy of being a Filipino for exhibiting some of the traits you consider “pinoyâ€. Because if you do, you will never win allies in your cause to help change the Philippines because the allies that you think exist don’t and never did.
I also hope that you don’t believe the fiction of a “Filipino†and a “Pinoy†and that you can actually segregate Filipinos from Pinoys. To be clear, I am not referring to the created terms “FIlipino†and “Pinoy†in reference to the good and the bad. What I am referring to is the fiction that you can actually look at Philippine society and choose those who are “Filipinos†and choose those who are “Pinoys†and actually physically segregate the two.
As I said earlier, we are all Filipinos and Pinoys all at once, in our own ways, and in varying degrees . . . .in other words, in million shades of grey.
Redemption for our country can only come when we realize that all of us have our Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde personas . . .our Filipino and Pinoy traits. Rather than think that anyone who doesn’t share your point of view or your system of doing things is a Pinoy and those who do are Filipinos, it might be best to acknowledge that reaching that “FIlipino†ideal as you’ve defined it, is something everyone….every Filipino….has the capacity of reaching. Rather than segregate and feel “superior†(in the most negative way the word “elitism†can evoke), at the expense of the inferior group and endlessly condemn that “other group†who is unlike you, it might be best to make people believe that no matter what their flaws are, they are never beyond redemption and constructively finding a way to make that happen.
Which brings me to my second major problem with this article and many articles in the GRP site.
2. The apparent lack of tolerance for things that doesn’t fit your description of what’s ideal
I am not disagreeing with your right to express your opinions. Nor am I disagreeing with your right to define those which you consider ideal and those which you consider are not.
In fact, in many instances, I find myself agreeing with you and GRP when you say something is ideal and something is not.
But many times too, I think you seem to lack tolerance in its basic and most fundamental essence.
Take for example the Jessica Sanchez reference.
My question is…really? Did you even have to go there. Not that I am insulted one bit or feel personally slighted for even cheering for her. Fact of the matter is…I am not obsessed about her nor do I really watch the show. But yes, I am somehow updated (e.g., I would check a Youtube video when I see a news feed on my Facebook). And as I said . . if I could, I’d vote for her. Why? Because (1) she has talent; (2) I want her to win; (3) taken together with 1 and 2, she has a Filipino mother…and I identify with that. Maybe in your rule book, my reason no. 3 is a reflection of the stupidity of the Filipino. If you think that’s the case, then you’re entitled to believe that.
I completely understand the effort you put and how past articles went out of their way to condemn the Filipino support of Jessica Sanchez.
But come on now!
I don’t want to fall into the fruitless exercise of arguing with you on whether your points or the points of past articles about the Pinoys’ support Jessica Sanchez is a reflection of what you deem is another contemptuous trait of the Pinoy.
Let’s just say that when you start touching the trivial facets and make a big deal of them, you remind me of that bishop – Oscar Cruz – who interjects himself into everything and has an opinion on everything. Listening about his contempt at everything that doesn’t jive with his beliefs make me think he is one intolerant freak. It makes my eyes roll and wonder why his opinion was even sought by the media on the matter at hand.
With all due respect, it is so fitting that you actually used references to Hitler, Nazism, etc. in your article. At the rate you’re going . ..if you happen to be in a position of power……we would probably see ourselves living in your own version of the police state….which is so intolerable of so many things.
You have all the right to know what hate and don’t hate or what you like and don’t like. It’s really a matter of preference. The problem is that many times, you seem to think that your preference is a reflection of what is right and that someone’s else’s preference not in accord with yours is a reflection of what is wrong and contemptible. In other words, you elevate the trivial to a level of unjustified importance in the grand scheme of things and elevate your preferences of taste/lifestyles to the level of what are the great issues affecting Filipino society and justify all that by making discussing the trivial issue in an intellectual context . . . again, for the purpose of segregating those worthy to be called FIlipinos from those who are not.
It is a recurring theme in GRP – – – -there is us and there are those who are simply not good enough to be Filipinos.
Now, I really don’t know you and you don’t know me. For all I know…you may be the most fun person in the world. But when I read your articles and many of those in GRP, I sometimes feel that you’ve sucked out all the fun and joy of living and diversity and reduce the ideal of beauty, happiness, and prosperity as something that closely resembles your preferences.
As far as I know, it will truly be more fun in the Philippines if we learn to know when to be tolerant (e.g., people enjoying their form entertainment; exercising their right to determine how to dispose of their income) and when not to (e.g., culture of corruption), etc. That’s not to diminish valid points and observations about certain so-called “trivial†matters.
In the words of many laid back Vancouverites. . . . “chill dude, chill.†Not everything is as serious as you make them out to be.
(Wow – – it took me 1.5 hours to write this. 🙂 Time for me to post this and enjoy the sun . . . . )
Bravo,bravo! I like how you replied to this piece. I read it till the end. I was thinking of how I was going to reply to this article but scrollign down to the comments got me to ur comment. It was perfect. I plan to post this in my Filipino group FB page and see how the guys/gals think about it. For sure, the Pinoy and Filipino in them would laugh and argue and we would all have a rockin’ time. Thanks. I hope you enjoyed the sun.=)
@F Angel
According to you –
“THIS WRITE-UP WAS SARCASM MORE THAN ANYTHING. While sarcasm is a device lost upon many Pinoys, I believe the repeated exposure will eventually get them used to it.”
Last time your excuse was it was just your “crude observation” and I labeled you as Mr. Crude Observation.
So what it will be next time Mr. Sarcasm?
Are you really serious with you blogging? Or just for the sake of being known to be blogging?
What I mean is do you expect to be taken seriously?
Gregory,
First off, I appreciate an obviously well-thought out comment like this one. Let me tell you this: by refusing to think in “rigid absolutes”, your thought pattern is more Filipino than Pinoy.
Keep in mind that in my definitions of the Pinoy and the Filipino, I never said that a citizen of the Philippines will always be exclusively either a pure Pinoy or pure Filipino. What I said was that a Pinoy exhibits so and so traits, while the Filipino exhibits so and so traits.
The reality is that, most of the time, as you mentioned, a citizen of the Philippines is indeed a mixture of both the Pinoy and the Filipino. The question is, alin ang ipapairal mong ugali? Which personality traits will you bring to the forefront, and which traits will you suppress?
Here’s another Pinoy trait that has to go: they would rather judge instead of understand a person whose circumstances and opinions differ from theirs. Why are Pinoys judgmental? Because with such egocentric behavior and high regard for themselves, they don’t know how to react to a person with a differing perspective. It destroys their ego.
I don’t have anything against Jessica Sanchez as a talent. But keep in mind she honed that talent on her own. Many Pinoys like to think that she and people like Pacquiao are great solely by “virtue” of having Filipino blood, and that they can make her individual success their collective one. This is simply not true. What I do have something against is the bandwagon mentality that Pinoys jump on to do exactly just that. After that, there is an ensuing mentality that anybody who does not do what they do is considered a “traitor to Pinoy pride”.
President Aquino? Let’s just say he’s the ultimate embodiment of the Pinoys who voted for him. It was very apparent that he was, and still is, unfit for the job, yet they voted for him anyway simply because of all the nostalgia that his family name evokes, and because they bought into his slogan of anti-corruption. His incompetence, his vindictiveness, his lack of focus on the bigger things that need more attention, and lack of diplomatic finesse, these are the things that validate that Aquino and Pinoys deserve each other. I don’t want him to fail; I want him to improve, but it seems that any attempt at criticism to his questionable decisions keeps falling on deaf ears. Sounds like a Pinoy, doesn’t it?
Let me ask you a question: is being abrasive necessarily intolerant? Not always, and certainly not in this case. This write-up is abrasive, but not intolerant. But I maintain the stance that we need to be hard on people to act smarter, because Pinoys like their status quo.
I don’t think the issue of Pinoy stupidity is trivial, because it has been affecting the way we make decisions as a people for more than 2 decades. Unless we wake up and smell the coffee, we’re doomed to the insane asylum for many more years to come. We keep doing the same things and expect different results.
This write-up was sarcasm more than anything. While sarcasm is a device lost upon many Pinoys, I believe the repeated exposure will eventually get them used to it.
Whew, this was a pretty long response too, but your ideas inspired me to re-evaluate the way I look at mine. That deserves props. I am confident that if we ever meet in person you and I can have a drink or two and exchange ideas civilly as Filipinos.
“Here’s another Pinoy trait that has to go: they would rather judge instead of understand a person whose circumstances and opinions differ from theirs.”
You call this trait out as “Pinoy” yet you do this very thing in your article by painting the people who support Jessica Sanchez and President Aquino as ignorant fools. As stupid as their opinions may seem to you, they remain what they are: opinions. Allow me to share this quote from Voltaire: “It is clear that the individual who persecutes a man, his brother, because he is not of the same opinion, is a monster.â€.
Reading your comments, I can tell you meant well when you set out to write this article. I see how you desire passionately for our country to improve too. However, your self-regard and elitism, and I say this with all love, gets in the way of communicating your message. Frankly, I don’t think you are the open-minded, intellectual person you think you are. I do not see how calling Pinoys ‘stupid’, or ‘idiots’, and ‘dogs’, in any way helps this country. In light of this, I’d actually categorize you as more of part of the “problem”, than part of the solution.
Just as the ‘maitim’ is equal to the ‘maputi’, or the ‘mayaman’ equal to the ‘mahirap’, so is the “educated” equal to the illiterate. Or the “intellectual” to the ‘masa’. We are all Filipinos equal to each other. We are all Pinoys.
Nice to see someone around here who’s willing to present a different point of view.
Errr, for some reason this comment was replied under another message.
This was for Greg
Thank you K3. Diversity in thought is always healthy. Otherwise, there is a danger of falling into the danger of group thinking and preaching to the choir.
I meant….danger of falling into group thinking
Seems I’m inclined to agree with Greg.
Hi FallenAngel,
Thanks for giving a thoughtful reply. I appreciate it.
I appreciate too the fact that you’re willing to look at my comments and actually think about it further.
That’s what I call a genuine dialog as opposed to simply responding for the sake of responding.
As to the “ipinapagiral mong ugali” comment – completely agree with you. In ethical terms, it is about being fundamentally good as opposed to being fundamentally evil.
As to this Jessica Pinoy pride thing – – sure, I know that she’s really American. I have cousins who have Filipino parents but they consider themselves American. And they still recognize their Filipino heritage. If there are some Filipinos who want to claim Jessica as their own….my thought is that…I’ll let them be. While it is sometimes too much for my own taste, there are things I just let go because to me, in the grand scheme of things, it really isn’t that big a deal.
Abrasiveness isn’t intolerance. In fact, I like Bill Maher a lot and he can be abrasive. I don’t think you were abrasive at all. In fact, abrasive or not, you have all the right to say what you want to say in whatever way even if it hurts someone because I believe in freedom of speech. The intolerance I refer too though is a result of the circumstances. Without further elaborating….I think the bottomline is in the grand scheme of things, it is best to just let certain trivial things go (and not to sweat the small stuff, as the cliche goes).
As to Aquino….isn’t that a sweeping statement that all those who voted for him are Pinoys and stupid? Take a close look at that conclusion you made. If it is a frustration with Aquino….then sure, I understand. But to actually indict everyone who voted for him and condemn them for being Pinoys doesn’t seem reasonable. Again, I talk of building allies in the task of changing Philippine society. If you’ve already called all those who voted for him stupid, then I am sure you will be alienating some people who actually are thinking Filipinos and whom you would consider as Filipinos based on your definition.
Anyway….thanks for taking the time out to respond. I appreciate it when people can disagree without being disagreeable.
Don’t you think that your article has struck a chord? Many are now stirred because you blatantly crashed into their ego, and they are noe forced to re-examine themselves. So be proud. Write more. Don’t stop.
Remember that there are no monuments built for conformists. Heroes and prophets have been hated and persecuted simply because they were way ahead of their time; and so does this article, which proved to be a tough pill to swallow for some. So chill and sit back. Kilometric comments are proof that the article is effective. Very effective.
– Aisha
Greggy-boy, how about you put the bong down and step away from the TV.
The number of times you argued yourself into a corner was infinitely overshadowed by the number of times you apologize while making no sense at all to your own ideological references.
How about living in the Manila of today and see if all that “over education” still makes sense?
Let’s analyze your reply:
Greggyboy – My name is Greg/Gregory. Why call me Greggyboy? Is this a put down?
Put the bong down – Sure, you are implying that by living in Vancouver, I am probably smoking pot. Stereotyping. Plus, you seem to imply that my response was written while smoking pot – – and therefore unintelligible.
Step away from the TV – What does this comment have to do with my response? I even hardly watch TV.
No. of times you argued yourself into a corner – Pls. point out the times.
Overshadowed by the number of times you apologize – Really? Pls. point out.
While making no sense at all to your own ideological references – Okay…you’re not making sense as far as I’m concerned. Perhaps you can give an example.
How about living in Manila? – This is another you vs. us example…that people living in the Philippines are doing something better for the country as opposed to those living outside of the country. I don’t know how my place of residence became an issue….because you seem to be making an issue of the fact that I don’t live back home.
Over education? – Should I apologize now for having gone to good schools? You sound like Rick Santorum.
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I was tempted not to respond because your response was really a non-response. I am sure thinking people will notice how unresponsive you were at all to my post. All you did was state a lot of put down statements.
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Compare your reply to others who replied and you will notice that the others at least actually gave a well thought out response.
Greggy-boy,
The fact that your response was this long leads me to believe either one of two things (or possibly both):
1. Your cable is out, or
2. It started raining and you are now back indoors.
Get over it, you. If you can’t take it, then don’t dish it out.
Neither of your conclusions are correct. It is sunny and my tv cable is working. Interesting how you can actually think and still end up with the wrong conclusions.
As to the “long response” to your earlier reply….it actually took me under 5 minutes to compose. That’s the time that I was willing to allot to your response. This new one took just under a minute.
He he he…
Go Greg!
I would like to think that Pinoys/Filipinos who are not living and breathing in the Philippines are hard core Pinoys. Your ways are not Filipinos but Canadians/American already. You try to be pinoys, naturally bec you miss the old days back in the Phils.
Sadly, if you breathe and live now in the Phils. You really get sick seeing that Pinoy character and want to see Filipinos. Not to mention, how more aggravation that PNoy term has made to this terminology.
Perhaps, I just found real and genuine meaning of the word Pinoy in this post I like it. No dramas at all. At least,we are not Flips, fondly called by idiotic canadians as F*%#ing Little Island People.
Nice post..
Philippines is a multi ethnice country…there were good traits that seems bad to other ethnic…there were disagreements between ethnics or people but in the long run unity is the key….i dont get the idea of all the hatred given….the writer for sure is not perfect…..
one more thing citing the countries stand for the shoals…for me what are this guys a yellow or a coward…frankly yes we will be defeated if war comes…putting down your patriotic belief because china is a communist and had a large army???so what….even I dont belief that we will win to them but once they touch us is a different thing….
the writer of the article say evil, stupid to a certain person espcially aquino….if he is that genius then why not he runs for a seat in the congress, senate, or even president and lets see what he got….to the writer, whoever you are, i may agree with you that we had a weak president but in the president’s decision regarding the shoal…i’ll stand by the president decision….
For me the final solution Fallenangel…is you to leave this country…and live in a country that suited for you….why not try staying in poland and ukraine, where the spirit of the third reich is slowly rising….because for me you sound like the third reich….iliminating who is not pure….
Every part of this article was making me laugh in a way that is humorous as well as unfortunate. You were spot on in your observations and sadly, this PINOY syndrome has been plaguing us for years. FILIPINOS, well most of them, end up shrugging their shoulders and giving up on the situation. The vast majority will always triumph. The minority have to cope with the consequences. For many Filipinos the consequences are too much to bear and so we find greener pastures elsewhere, hoping to be part of a minority in a different country and most often than not, successfully living the lives that they can only dream of here in the Philippines. A vicious cycle that truthfully will only escalate further as time goes by. Perhaps someday things will change.
Aimee, as a middle-aged American who knows near-zero about the Philippines, I’ve been browsing the comments here with interest, and feel I can offer a similar perspective as yours.
Many older Americans feel their old way of life being shoved into a corner, as if all their painstaking efforts of the past have been in vain due to the orchestrated onslaught of uneducated, lazy newcomers to the scene.
So Filipino’s – you’re not the only ones who have turned into minorities outmobbed by Pinoy corruption. You can shake hands with us older Americans as well.
spoken like a true vancouverite. sorry we can’t chill. we got to shake it up. the country is on life support (OFWs) in the ICU.
enjoy the sun..
If all you got from my post was the idea of chilling…then the whole point was totally missed. 🙁
Anyway – – -I hope I am adding an element of diversity to the opinions expressed to the articles of GRP.
I will probably be condemned for writing what I wrote.
To those who will have the open mind to hear me out, you’ll notice that I didn’t fall into the trap of completely condemning the article. To do so would be the antithesis of the point I was trying to make.
In my case, I acknowledged those that I agreed with and those that I didn’t agree with.
So before people start condemning what I wrote, breath first, open your minds, read….and you’ll see what the two important points I made was all about (rather than selectively see/hear the things you want to see/hear).
Hint: The points aren’t about “chillin”.
I’m cool with it. The comment you posted addresses some of my inner concerns.
Regarding Jessica Sanchez, I think there’s nothing wrong voting for her to win because like you said (and likewise the article) the girl has talent.
The article on Jessica must have been all about the bandwagon mentality the ‘Pinoys’ have. When the news says “vote for Jessica because she’s a Filipino”, many would indefinitely vote for her. Nothing wrong with that, until some rabid fans spewing out “Jessica Sanchez” all day long, the mass media promoting it for everyone to talk about and also when a typical ‘Pinoy’ would scream out “PROUD TO BE PINOY”. The question is, does that “Pinoy” deserve to share the pride? If he’s doing things to contribute to the society and aware of what’s happening around him, then he is. But if he just happen to laze around, then he’s just one of the typical “Pinoys’ contributing nothing and needs to be taught and educated that’s not the way of the world.
Don’t worry dude, your opinions are welcomed here. And you are a good example of a Filipino because you can think, argue and express opinions. Kudos. 🙂
There’s nothing wrong in voting for Jessica if you truly believe that she deserves it. I believe that appreciation of talent should transcend nationalities. 😀
Nearly the entire world is on life support a.k.a. hanging by a thread. Take a look at the thrivemovement video on youtube. It’s mind blowing, but worth watching. It explains alot.
The problem with GetRealPhilippines is that they are barking at the wrong tree. Leaders are voted by the people, yet they are lambasting the stupid leaders who are voted by 40% Filipinos drenched in poverty and probably won’t give a shit to what these authors/editors think. Do these leaders would even read to what you write?
If you want to make a difference, get your asses on the streets and teach them poor Filipinos ala CNN Hero of the Year @karitonkid which you have said yourself.
Gusto niyo kasi ibang tao ang gagawa ng mga sinasabi niyo. Mga gago!
Les talk, more action.. right on!
Less talk, more action.. right on!
A true example of a Pinoy as described in the article. Bravo.
That last sentence (bad word) destroyed whatever credibility of what was said in the first place. Yup, typical example of Pinoy indeed, the use of heart instead of head first.
I am proud to be a Filipino, and not proud to be Pinoy. I agree completely with this article.
At bago mo ako murahin, dapat siguro malaman mo simula ng 2004 tuwing summer at sem break kasama ako sa isang grupo na pumupunta sa mga probinsiya at ina-update at, kung kinakailangan, iwinawasto namin ang kaalaman ng mga IT teacher.
Ilang tao na ang natulungan mo? Sa isang guro na natulungan namin, maraming mag-aaral na kadamay. At hindi lang kaalaman sa IT ang naibabahagi namin, sapagkat may mga guro na naging estudyante ko na hindi na aalis ng bansa dahil nakita niyang may mga Filipino pa pala dito sa atin.
Filipino ako. Hindi namin kailangan ang mga Pinoy dito.
do you think that IT is the key in the province…..either you say it na filipino but still you are not perfect you still have a pinoy trait in you….if you agree on what Fallenangel say then you are pinoy also….
anyways….good for you that you help to improve IT literacy in the province…may i ask what province is that???
It seems na ikaw na ang gago dito, even you have some points. Are you one of the trolls who said ‘Kayo na lang ang maging Presidente’? Congrats.
“Dumb people talk about PEOPLE. Average people talk about EVENTS. Intelligent people talk about IDEAS.” -Eleanor Roosvelt
Another Pinoy species–hypersensitive and responds with emotions + pagmumura. LOL! Very classic.
Speaking of unggoys. You should read the Unggoys of the Halo Universe. http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Unggoy
This is a very apt description of pinoys which halo used. This is also a very subtle criticisms about pinoy.
LOL! Then the Kig-yars were the Chinese. *rofl*
The impeachment of Corona intends to bide time for PNoy who clearly doesn’t have any idea how to lead this country.
The staggering 85% of citizenry belong to Pinoy (emotional type) category and they love it making noise everywhere from ABS-CBN UKG blogsites to major web media channels. Only less than 15% remain in the thinking (academic intellectual)group with more than half of this group consciously supporting stupid Pinoys in favor of their own extra business and/or political mileage at the expense of the unfortunate few (of us) who keep our sanity intact in the midst of the chaos. This very same ship that we are all in dire existence will definitely go down with everyone without exception whether one is just plain Pinoy or true bloodied Filipino by heart and mind. Education will help a little bit but the root cause of all these quagmire is deeply engrained by our inability to rise up above our colonial mentality and dire superstitions or the inability of even some of our intellectuals to capture the essence of the true Christian values. This is evident in our society with the snail-paced progress promoted by the make-believe fantasy of the great Roman Empire era even by some of our foremost media outlet like ABS-CBN. Until this mentality is shaken off from the Pinoy mind the Philippines will never truly experience a worthwhile turn around of its current predicament.
I’ve been reading a lot of GRP’s articles and I have noticed that it has always been referencing Willie Revillame’s show and ABS-CBN. What about Eat Bulaga? It has been in the airwaves for more than 25 years and has been delivering the same garbage that Willie’s show has been producing. What about GMA7? It’s shows are not that different from ABS-CBN, which are a waste of time. Please enlighten me on this.
All of us have different opinions, and obviously all of us are Filipinos. We talk on different levels of intellect and to different audiences…why start arguing among ourselves? We belittle the lessons we learn. All the writers and contributors to the site are doing is opening up their observations and critiques to everyone who has the capability of accessing the web and who are willing to listen. We are all free to speak up our minds and no one is stopping us. As an observer and reader, I may agree or disagree with what was said or written, but don’t take it against the writers. Remember, for one to act, one must know. Having nothing to read won’t lead to anyone being inspired to move. And remember that not everyone has the leisure or capability to write and act on the things we talk about. Each and everyone has limitations. It is for the reader understand and act out, because the mere act of writing these observations and how it prompts us to act is an act in itself.
I think that the site is meant to prompt people to act en masse and not to just be another rant on the wall. As to whoever is wrong or right is a moot point. One man’s religion maybe another man’s sin. So just hold your peace and do what you know or feel is right… to enrich and uplift our society, our nationality and our pride. It is everyone’s right, and every Filipino’s responsibility to nurture.
I agree with some of Gregory’s and PenDygma’s points and also the author’s points, and it is up to the individual on how to discern, take what is right from wrong, and live by it.
Nobody’s perfect. We all made these mistakes at one time or another, and now that we know what’s pulling us down as a nation, sana matuto na tayo. Pero hindi pa rin eh. The best solution is to start with yourself. You cannot change the whole PH in a day, but you can change yourself and be a better person, not just as a Filipino.
Why prolong the agony on a slow boat to China? Bundle him up and toss him into the fastest aircraft available. Any aircraft will do except Cebu Pacific cuz he might be off-loaded.
I don’t like the idea of segregating “Pinoys” from “Filipinos” (due to the fact the Filipinos were divided among ourselves, not to mention “regionalism”) but I do like the idea of Educating the “Pinoys” to think critically very much. 🙂
FallenAngel,
Passionately written. I enjoyed reading it as much as digesting the points. I agree with all of them.
1. I’ve been seeing that comment on the Pinoy/Filipino difference on the GRP comment threads. Great play on expounding on the idea.
2. Good call to action, to be a Pinoy or Filipino. Strive to be better. Imagine if everyone does exactly that.
3. I loved how you used Penaflorida as an example. There ought to be more from him around. I hope not because of SMS voting competitions.
Be the change that you want to see in the world. 😀
Cheers!
Well said, this article reminds me of a quote “Stupidity makes Perfect” and “Time is Gold”.:)
I might be asleep for a thousand years.
Since when is a Pinoy different from a Filipino? Where did you get this new definitions of Pinoy?
I’m a Flipino and calling me a Pinoy won’t embarrass me.
The population of the Philippines is roughly 90 mil and according to you –
“While I am not advocating that we round up all the morons in the Philippines and place them in concentration camps, the stupid Pinoy has to “die†so that the Filipino may live. The Filipino needs Lebensraum (habitat, or breathing room) in order to prosper. Imagine if we got rid of all the Pinoys; out of 90-100 million people, how many would be left?”
So how many would be left?
The way I see it, it is your subtle way of labeling Filipinos as stupid which from where I’m sitting, is pointless to argue that posit with you. I can only presume you’re mind is already made up in expressing that kind of opinion.
On the other hand, stupidity is not a monopoly of the Filipinos.
The consolation I could get in reading this post is this not about Pinoys’ stupidity. This post is all about you. Your dislikes of Pinoys comes second or last to your real agenda.
I lost count of your first-person singular pronoun even though I was counting it per sentence of every paragraph.
Why do I get the feeling that there is something unusual with these new commenters…
I won’t hold my breath if there is some sort of commonalities among them.
SUCKPUPPETRY yan as in they suck at sockpuppetry.
“People, you are stupid, so I want you to change” seems to be the essence of this article. But I think it just won’t work. My question to the author is, do you think you are being part of the solution or part of the problem? I think if your intention for this and the many other similar articles on GRP is to earn money from the pageviews, ad-impressions, and click-throughs, then you are somewhat part of the solution. You are creating something. You are being entrepreneural. If your intention is to change people, I doubt you will find any success, and you are simply being part of the problem. If you really want a change in society, consider a change in strategy then, whether in the way you compose your articles or in giving up on writing altogether and taking more concrete actions like focusing on your work or business. You might also want to consider writing in Filipino and giving talks in person (or asking someone to do it for you, if you can’t do it yourself), if your intention is really to communicate these issues to people. Because honestly, I don’t see how talking about “them” over here helps. I just don’t see how this article or the act of writing it is part of the solution.
Ron Aquino—this one is a crybaby!… if you are open minded you take this article in a more positive outlook. i’ve read your comment and WTF your talking about? cguro tinamaan ka noh? sa article na to? haha
Opo, nasasaktan ako sa mga “kapwa Pinoy” na katulad nitong manunulat na ito na tila ang daming panunuro sa mga mali ng ibang kapwa niya Pinoy. Oo, alam ko ang lahat ng mga mali ng mga Pinoy, lahat ng kabobohan at kung ano-ano pa. Ako din mismo ang hindi natutuwa doon sa mga iyon. Pero wala akong magagawa e. Kahit anong pagsusulat ko, kahit anong sabihin ko, wala akong karapatan manuro. Ayun lang naman ang palagay ko.
Teka, na-gets mo ba yung punto ko? Palagay ko hindi. Pero, ano magagawa ko. Feeling mo “Filipino” ka. Anyway.
Crybaby my ass. But you know, I’m no coward like you, choosing to hide by your generic, self-righteous nickname, “filipino.” I guess you don’t get it. I guess because you think you fit the author’s checklist definition of a “Filipino” and then you think you’re better than everyone else who disagrees with this article. You resort to name calling? Really?
Samantalang ikaw ay isa din sa mga tinutukoy ng author na mga manhid na mga “Pinoy,” kayong mga nagte-“txtspk” sa internet. “Cguro!…” Ano yon? Tsaka it’s “you are” hindi “your”. Right back at you.
Anong if I am open minded? I am, and to me the thoughts of the author contained in this article show no open-mindedness. Pati yang comment mo na yan. “Crybaby!” Gosh man, name calling? Yeah right. Show your name man. Show me what things you have achieved. You have my name, and even a link to my website. Tell me you’re really better than me. Don’t hide behind that pseudonym.
I also agree with you.
This post, as the blogger have claimed, is a sarcasm.
Short of saying “pinasakay ang lahat bago sinabi na sarcasm”.
Get the drift.
Kaya minsan, you’re going to feel cheated making a long and well-researched comment tapos babalikan ka lang ng “beeeh, sarcasm lang ang post ko!”.
Webmaster, how about this thing?
Trosp, I get your point and I agree. But you know as a blogger myself and someone who wishes I could earn a decent amount from blogging, I wish I could write articles like this because it is successful – it gets a lot of pageviews, and thus it earns. But yeah, I think if they were a serious news/opinion organization, dapat may disclaimer, sa dulo at least. But again, I think nationalism and whatever similar ideals is not the only aim of this website. Because, after all, in the end there are costs to running this website. But that’s just what I think. Please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, GRP people.
nice………though i agree to some of the view but not all…
Like one comment here, there are those who inspire change through writing. Others through actions inspired by writings. Some both. This is there avenue of airing out their concerns. Hell, they articulate their ideas well. So why think of them less?
Who was thinking of them less? I was asking them to ask the same question to themselves. Aren’t they being “pinoy” as well? I mean, if they can point fingers at others, can they not accept being pointed a finger at? Because that to me seems like someone thinking highly of themselves. If they were asking people to check if we are contributing to the country or not, I ask back that same thing to them. Because in my opinion, things like this article does not really help. Am I not allowed to state my opinion? Anyway, I offered some ideas as to what more concrete things they can do if they really want to push their concerns. Am I not allowed to do so? Read between the lines of my comment, people. Please. Don’t be so “pinoy.”
Dear fallenangel,
I love it! Well done. In all aspects you have clearly difine our true situation.
I admire you for writing this.
Wow, that felt like one of the most elitist and egotistical pieces of writing that I’ve read in a long time. Sounds to me like the author is not part of any solution, but rather, a large part of the problem.
Well then, you might as well read this too:
Ten reasons why Filipinos blame Gloria Arroyo for everything
Imagine if we got rid of all the Pinoys; out of 90-100 million people, how many would be left? —– this made me laugh.. haha 80% crybabies would die i think…. PINOYS….. they are just good for fertilizers.
Pearls before swine are a waste. If that means 4 out of 5 will pay for their lack of knowledge with their lives, 4 out of 5 will pay for their lives for refusing knowledge.
@Ilda,
I’ve only encountered the first-person singular pronoun in the first paragraph if I’m not mistaken.
It makes a lot of difference for me as a post blog reader.
Nice post.
Oligarchs… are they Pinoy or Filipino?
My take, the Patriarchs/Matriarchs – Filipino, under the more than half group of people who take advantage of pinoys as ellah koh mentioned.
Their descendants, based on what we see, are becoming more and more pinoy.
Kind of like Conrad Hilton, except there are more counterparts for Paris on this side of the globe.
I believe the Final solution is to: Kick Noynoy Aq
I believe that the Final solution is to: Kick the Bastard, Noynoy Aquino on his rear end. Or put him on a Straightjacket, where cannot do more harm to the country anymore. Nazi’s Adolf Hitler was Psychotic. Jofeff Stalin, the mass murderer was also suffering from mental illness. So, is Noynoy Aquino, who is always napping (Noynoying). This is the side effects of his anti-depressant medications. He needs these medications, to counter his insanity…We, Filipinos, or Pinoys…whatever side you are in, have a lot to learn. We do not improve, because of our own making. We always elect he wrong people…and we never learn from our mistakes.
I find it amusing that people who keep complaining about the “stupidity” of Filipinos fail to realize that the whole damn world is filled with idiots. America is, Europe is, Japan is, the whole world is filled with idiots who are no less stupid than these “Pinoys” that you mention.
And yet, despite other countries having their fair share of idiots, they still seem to be able to prosper. Why is that, I wonder
You can find the answer to your question here:
Filipinos cannot progress if they cannot follow even simple guidelines
I’ve read that article before. You seriously think that following guidelines is the solution to our problem? The people in Hong Kong and the USA don’t exactly follow guidelines but they prosper. It’s not about guidelines and discipline. Sure it would make things life more comfortable and organized, but that won’t bring us out of our poverty ditch.
Oh my…you’ve read the article but you are still clueless about the solution to the country’s main problem? Here’s the gist: if majority of Filipinos, including the politicians follow the rule of law then we will be in fat city one day.
Here are some excerpts from the article just in case you didn’t read past the title:
I honestly don’t think that that is the main problem of our country. I don’t think that people having a “baseless sense of being more important than everybody” is a deterrent to our prosperity, simply because that happens everywhere.
One of my friends had even stated that there are people who even use the “rule of law” to their own advantage.
I’m all for discipline, but I don’t think that that is what is preventing us from our own progress
Have you ever considered the fact that there are more people who do not follow the law in the Philippines compared to other first world countries?
Anyway, if you “honestly don’t think that is the main problem”, that is fine with me. Unfortunately, you are still clueless about why we cannot achieve progress.
Here’s something else you need to read.
Why is it so hard for Filipinos to just obey the law?
Okay, granted that there are more people who are disobedient here, how would having people become obedient cause progress?
If we become more disciplined, what will happen? Will we work harder? If we do, how will this achieve progress? I just don’t see the connection.
Maybe I just missed a logical step in my deduction, and if you can help me figure that out, I’d appreciate it. But from my current understanding, we can become upright, hardworking and disciplined citizens, yet still wallow in poverty
Maybe the
Sorry, time is up. You can answer your own questions, obviously.
Time is up? I’m asking honestly here, and if you don’t help me understand your point, I really won’t understand it.
If we work harder, then we will produce more items? If that happens, then there will be more companies that will profit granted, but how will that help the people?
Gees…you should use your imagination. Imagine a place where people do not violate road rules; the traffic would be smooth; you could actually go to work on time and be more productive or be in a good mood or avoid traffic fines. When you are not stuck in traffic, you will have more time for other activities like volunteering to help in the community or to have a hobby. You can even come up with an innovative technology to help our society. Those are just a few examples of what you can do with your spare time.
Imagine a place where public officials do their work honestly and do not pocket public funds; Construction of infrastructure projects would finish on time and the public would actually benefit from it.
I could go on and on but that would be like me doing the thinking for you already.
Ciao
That seems like a very small-scale factor to actually create something worthwhile. Sure it will add productivity to many people, but then what? If people become more productive, does that necessarily mean we prosper? I can also imagine a world where we produce and produce diligently, yet still earn peanuts because of many factors (mismanagement, corruption, etc). So even if I think of a wonderful idea because I have the time to do so, if people will abuse it, say, if someone steals my idea, or if people profit from it while I only get a small amount, I would still be in the same situation. Which is why I don’t think that this is the solution.
Now let’s say we still consider the people being undisciplined. In labor, there is a certain amount that they should produce (sometimes known as a quota, but not strictly). And if the system can manage the factors so that these people earn enough despite being undisciplined, then problem solved.
Okay, if these people were more productive, they’d get more than the others who are lazy, which is fine and dandy. In this case, the lazy people get less, the diligent get more, but the system still works even if all the people are lazy and undisciplined, if managed correctly.
Now, articles like these might lead us to think that Filipinos are undisciplined to the point that they don’t even produce the quota, but if you observe places like factories and farms, you’d see that this is actually the minority. Most workers produce enough, sometimes even more.
To summarize my point, even if we were disciplined and productive, if the external factors remain that constrain our progress, we will still be in the same situation. But, if we are under a system where the workers can already earn enough just by doing the required amount of labor, then no matter how lazy we are, we will still progress.
As for politicians pocketing funds, isn’t that more an issue of corruption? In that case, I’d agree that removing corruption will help us, at least bit by bit.
I apologize if I may have made it such that you should think for me, but I thought about this before, and, maybe because of my lack of imagination (which I admit I have), I haven’t been able to think of how your theory would work. And since I cannot think of how it would work, I have no choice but to disagree with you
It was not a theory. Following or upholding the rule of law helped other countries progress from third world to first. Even former Prime Minister of Singapore Lee Kuan Yew once said Filipinos are not disciplined and we all know that discipline is part of his formula for success.
I already said earlier that if you do not agree with me, that is fine. You can proceed to violating the rule of law. Just remember the saying “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
Goodnight! Adios!
Okay theory or not, I admit that being disciplined helps, and it is always a good thing to be disciplined. I just don’t see it as the solution to the country’s main problem, and I believe that is where we differ. Just to clarify 😉
Well, it’s really hard to argue with others who can present a proven result.
Kudos to Ilda and Pepe. Both of you have insighful opinions.
Thanks, Trosp!
If I may butt in with my opinion, related to this comment thread: I think the solution to the problem is the right leadership. Ilda pointed out Lee Kwan Yew for Singapore. There are so many examples. In the same way, I think of this because in the very basic unit of society – the family – the quality of the parenting is a big factor as to how the kids will grow and mature. In the same way, there are these “pinoys” because “pinoy” parents brought them up. To tell you the truth, I do not have any idea as to who really can be the best leader for our country. First and foremost, we are so divided, and anyone who isn’t our ideal leader is suddenly the worst thing that ever happened to our country. But I think if anything the best leader for our country has to have three things: appeal, capability, integrity. There are people with appeal (PNoy?), there are people with capability (help me out here – I would just like to say Ramos from ’92-’98), and there are people with appeal and capability (Marcos?). We need someone with all three things. Unfortunately for some, there’s still 4 more years of PNoy.
But I think the best thing we can all do is to be the best parents we can be to our kids, so that they can be the best Filipino citizens yet.
By the way, just a disclaimer because I think some people here think I’m related to the Aquinos in politics: I am not.
I agree with Ron Aquino. What a country needs is the right leadership. I used to think that the root of all the idiot Pinoy is because of lack of philosophy or a certain “Filipino ethos.” Filipino society is an amalgam of different cultures, different hegemonies and globalization right up in the ass. People generally embrace anything “modern” and most especially “Western” without precaution of disadvantages. This kind of mindset drags the Pinoy to a social environment that he himself isn’t oriented to in the first place until he misuses it to his own sinking at the expense of forgetting a natural sense of integrity to his own heritage and people.
However, how do we replant the people to their own righteous soils if there is no education? And if there should be education, where do we get funds? We might have these NGOs and short-term advocacies, but the more incessant is education. Surely, it’s turning a blind eye to reality if we do not consider the financial entailment of such necessity.
@PHguy and Ron Aquino
The right leader is the one who follows or upholds the rule of law. It’s simple, really. 😉
@Ilda
Reminds me of this article..
🙂
Ilda: Agree, that is the right leader. But I think it’s not that simple. Now, we could go on and on about this so for now I’ll leave it at that.
pepe, you sir are an idiot. just one of my favourite quotes from you “If people become more productive, does that necessarily mean we prosper?” answer; yes!
“Jewish Question”, not “Jewish Problem”.
Rubbish.
Very arrogant of you. Are you really educated?
Please do not post a half-assed blog like this in the future. You do not know everything.
I think what we got here is a good example of that Pinoy species–hypersensitive and responds with emotions. Nasa article na nga, talagang ginaya pa.
And do you know much as he does? 🙂
If I may add one more comment. I personally do not like your use of “Pinoy” and “Filipino”. It’s divisive. Division is destructive. Do we want that? I’d put it this way. There are the True Pinoys/Filipinos, and there are the non-Pinoys/non-Filipinos. I would say your definition of “pinoy” generally fits my personal definition of a non-Pinoy/non-Filipino. People who aren’t exactly helping get the country to its rightful stature? I would add this as another example: people who belittle the Pinoys/Filipinos instead of help them, educate them, and so on, because I strongly believe that belittling a person doesn’t help that person. I would then ask you (and myself, and other people) this question instead, “Pinoy ka ba talaga?” or “Are you really Filipino?” Like you, I personally do not like these “non-Pinoys” in our country.
“I would add this as another example: people who belittle the Pinoys/Filipinos instead of help them, educate them, and so on, because I strongly believe that belittling a person doesn’t help that person.”
So, if a person is proud, unrepentant, never wants to admit that he/she is wrong (this is the character of the typical Filipino), how can u educate that?
What do you propose?
Well it’s difficult to educate that person because he’s already received his education – unfortunately it was the wrong one and that is why he has become proud, unrepentant, never wants to admit he/she is wrong. So effectively we would be trying to undo his education.
Anyway, there are many things you can do with a person like that in your life, like one is ignore them. Another is to just be subtle about those little things he/she does wrong, and not appear to be too judgmental or condescending. Another way is to just be firm. Anyway, yeah, I’ve known people like that. My personal favorite is to avoid/ignore them.
But the only real thing I think I can do is when I become a parent already, I will try to be the best parent that I can be to make sure my children don’t become like that. That’s just my personal advocacy and my own opinion. That’s really were education starts.
How about you, any ideas?
Such an erudite discussion, very well done.
The Final Solution? In the genesis of every great nation and people on earth, each had to undergo a revolution. Revolutions cleanses a society, it clarifies and makes real the ideals one holds dear (like liberty, equality, justice for all). That event in edsa, the one where one group of oligarchs were replaced by a stupider and more inept group did not a revolution make, rather it further trivialized the ideals of democracy. It allowed a teen-aged nation the liberties that they took for granted. It stunted to the maturing process of a society so that what remains in the currency is a society of teenagers – Appetitive, Insecure, Over-sensitive, Hormonal, and Rebellious of propriety, this makes for a society decaying further into cattle simply following electronic bells to their economic slaughter.
What we need is a true revolution in order for all these stupid Pinoys to think beyond their personal interests and begin to appreciate what it takes to really be Filipino
kill them all, let God sort them out…
funny remark.. had me laughing..
trying killing people and God will sort u out.. in hell..
The root problem with our society is not really ignorance, stupidity or poverty. Those are but after-effects. The real problem is pride and self-centeredness.
The Pinoy society does not want to admit that there is something wrong with itself and blames everybody else for it’s faults and shortcomings. How can you show a person like that what is right and wrong? They will not accept your insight.
The Pinoy society takes pride on accomplishments of individuals but in the actuality has no accomplishment “as a society”. But still incorporating the same pride as if the individual is the scoiety. How can you educate a society which thinks it has a lot of things when it really has nothing to be proud of? They will not accept education but will cling to their rotten ways.
We need a miracle to change this country. Divine intervention.
And that is why Pride is one of the Seven Deadly Sins.
BUT I DIGRESS.
Trying to educate those who refuse it is like casting pearls to swine. An utter waste. If the people refuse knowledge, let them perish; it is, after all, the price they pay.
daldal mo,manahimik ka nalang , critic, sarcastic,judgmental,tsk tsk.
As an foreign born Filipino who has dealt with actual Zionist Jews, they are a people who use the victim mentality to the extreme with absolute deceit and manipulation. The majority of Jews are of Euro decent. They’ve been major players in colonialism, genocide and hate towards people of Asia. Don’t fall for the western media propaganda.
BTW, your article does reek of bit of elitism. While I generally can’t stand the average bible worshipping, brand name-wearing, fiesta loving Filipino, I’d prefer to uplift the masses through societal reform by eliminating foreign influence and inciting national pride that eliminates the oligarchy bias. The Filipino people need a major purge of negative influences.
To suggest that Filipinos would fare better without foreign influences… Frankly, it reeks of isolationism, primitivism, and nativism, the last itself being iffy.
An isolationist mindset in a rapidly-changing world is actually a liability. No man, so goes the adage, is an island. Does that not also apply to societies?
i am a Filipino and i like your blog post very much. We have almost the same ideology when it comes to the point of view regarding Philippine politics 🙂
My two cents on how the Philippines will progress:
In my personal POV, Pinoys tend to rely more on other people AND Pinoys do nothing to improve his own life.
There are the “pensionados” who are pabigat to their family or relatives.
And there are also Pinoys who can’t make ends meet but are already satisfied and happy.
I remember my prof in college, she always quote “Do not settle for less… (forgot the exact phrase)”
Let’s walk the talk.
God Bless the Philippines.
Llda, it’s hard and very difficult to explain a pinoy to understand. Just take a rest. Believe me. They (Pinoy) never understands and correct themselves.
Pepe, a country will be more improved. It should be started with the quality people first. Ur government and its officers are also the ones whome Pinoy elected. It can also show the quality of people. Look at Japan, Korea or America and observe their people. How have they surpassed the quality of aal thing? They have surpassed because of people. If people r unquality how the country is?
What I can say about Pinoy is to always excuse their government. Yes, ur givernment is not good. They corrupts. The question is what the Pinoy should do? Yes, and again. Pinoys choose not to fo anything and keep excuse their givernment. You can not do with the government, you can not change the government that has already penetrate deeply in ur society. What the pinoys should do is to make its population to be quality. If Pinoys r quality and protect their assist. You will have the better government. Do I have to explain how it’t connected? Due to it might make Pinoys to understand.
Just correct the small problem at home first.
1. Stop watching the brainless tv programs. It will make u smart.
2. Stop being proud to be pinoy syndrome.
3. Learn more about the other countries. In this world there’re a lot of country not only America.
4. Learn social ettique.
I’m a foreigner from a third world country also. But after I have spent my life here. I feel I love my country so much. My country is heaven with first world infrastructure and best service.
I’ve experiences many time that ATM machines dont have money inside. This can show the system in ur country. It’s a laughable experiences that everyone can face. But it’s normal and very ordinary problem for Pinoy. I were born in the third world country also but I’ve never experienced this kind of problem before in my country. Long line in the banks, long queue at atm machines. It suck. This can show how unquality system is. Where is the unquality system from? It is from the people in the organization. U see? This is showing that ur country is not a friendly business orientation for foreign investors. This is just one of my experience here in PH. There r a lot if things that I cant explain. Pls wake up Pinoys. Dont b proud of stupid talent.
I am proud to be a Filipino because we are intelligent people. Proof is our ability to speak English (di ba kaya tayo nagiingles para susyal at pormang matalino).
Therefore we are more intelligent than the Japanese, Chinese, Germans & Italians whose people mainly speak their native tongues.
I can speak English therefore I am intelligent.
Pero teka, bakit kilala ang Hapon sa teknolodyi eh di naman sila marunong mag-ingles? Marunong naman tayo umingles pero DH lang sa abroad?
I do somewhat agree with Pepe. Yes, we will prosper in matters of productivity, and then what? We have surplus. The mindset didn’t change. Only the dedication to work has. The motivation didn’t change, it just happened that that person had more power to have that drive with not much reason.
Kumbaga sa kotse, kung pinaganda mo, mas pnabuti mo ang andar nya, edi ayos. Eh ano ngayon? Pareho lang naman siya sa ibang kotse eh. Lahat kasi ay nakadepende sa nagmamaneho. Quad-core nga ang phone mo. Bumilis nga ang paglalaro mo ng games at paglalathala ng saloobin sa facebook, twitter, at instagram, pero ano nangyari.
Don’t get me wrong though. Ilda also has a point, as the others has too. If the people are lazy, then Ilda is right. If the people are at the middle class who diligently pays taxes and help the economy, and improves to be better, so what happens next. Pepe is also right.
Therefore, the right question is: what is the right thing to say and do?
Let’s be honest here, absent of an outside or inside force that would use arms to effect change, nothing would be done. You can whine all you want but it won’t do a damn thing. You guys should read “Fate of Empires.”
The Philippines is corrupted to the core and our own culture/society is what can be described as going through “decline”. We were once one of the most prosperous nations in Asia (ironically while we were under foreign rule) but it only took 50+ years for Indio idiots (the ordinary brown Filipino) to take it down the drain and make the Philippines into a 3rd world hellhole. That speaks volumes of how we as a people are not fit to rule ourselves unless we change our ways for the better.
The problems go deeper than you listed above. This has nothing to do with changing the constitution or making our country into a Federal State. Our problems are cultural and unless we tackle these problems all band-aid solutions are for nought.