The Zimmerman-Duterte Effect sounds like the name for some phenomenon that leaps out of the pages of a Theoretical Physics textbook, but somehow it may indeed be scientifically sound – despite a radical collision with those too butt-hurt to admit that genetics has no place in a discussion on the area of the Pinoy’s inherent cultural dysfunction.
The Transformational Effect of Intercultural Rubbing
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Many still recall the first lab experiment they conducted in a College Physics course on electricity and magnetism. Students were asked to rub tissue paper on a sheet of plastic laminate or run a comb repeatedly through one’s hair and observe the magical effects on small pieces of tissue paper. Then to top it all up, the instructor would demonstrate some flashy display of static electricity in all its glory with that alien looking Van de Graaff generator!
The Zimmerman-Duterte Effect is simply the resulting positive cultural transfer that takes place when one from a culturally superior race repeatedly rubs and mingles with a native Pinoy, either through marriage or by some form of partnership or foster-parenthood/discipleship.
Indeed it is quite astounding to find Duterte, who has never lived in the first world, possessing the qualities and mindset of a progressive leader and citizen of a first-world country in the West. With yet another home run in removing the teeth of the communist insurgency with the passing of the new law called Tax Reform for Acceleration and Inclusion Act (TRAIN), there is hardly any reason left for the NPAs to still keep terrorizing the country to get their pro-poor demands.
We have free College tuition, free land for farmers (Agrarian reform implementation in full swing), double the salary for men in uniform, full-scale decentralization through mega-infra projects outside crammed MM, and now freedom from income taxes for low-income wage earners under TRAIN!
The nice thing about the right kind of mixed marriage is that the cultural transfer takes effect not just from the culturally superior spouse down to the offspring, but the rubbing off of that first-world mentality to the native Pinoy partner as well (in this case Duterte).
Us vs. Us
Two commenters here in GRP have expressed clashing paradigms and solutions on how Pinoy cultural dysfunction operates and should be dealt with, respectively.
- The Pallacertus viewpoint: Allow Pinoys to evolve naturally (let them be) while respecting their rights and freedoms – with the enlightened ones gently admonishing the misguided masses without patronizing condescension.
- The Marius viewpoint: Pinoys are inherently and hopelessly nefarious (as if it runs in the genes) and the primary way to fix widespread dysfunction in the country is to either poke fun at their stupidity (with the possibility of one or two coming to their senses) or to replace them outright with anything/anyone coming from the first world.
There are middle grounds to these two extremes. But first we need to set a few first-principles in place.
Genetically and culturally superior breeds exist
Whatever viewpoint is taken, we need to face the fact that people are not born equal. The earlier we grasp this, the better it will be for the sociocultural evolution of Filipinos.
In the avian kingdom, there are superior species like the eagle, in terms of speed, power and choice of living conditions; then there are inferior ones like the Maya bird, which is content on flying low and digging through dirt to find a bug.
The same is true in the world of Homo sapiens. There are those genetically predisposed to live in freezing conditions and survive tough winters; there are those who are culturally inclined to excel in the field of business.
Crossbreeding works; if it doesn’t – prove it
We all know the negative effects of inbreeding or closing one’s borders from the outside world. The hope of effectively fixing Pinoy dysfunction is in gently bringing in the “foreign element”. So in deciding on a lifetime partner, don’t just accidentally “fall in love” with the next random native bum you happen to bump into. Finding a mate needs to fit into the overall strategy and align with the goal in mind – to press on towards improvement and enhancement, both genetically and culturally, as a people.
Have you ever wondered why you never see baby pigeons? You will always see them fully grown. Now try to think of this before springing out with any “anti-bigotry anti-neo-Nazi” attack: why don’t you see any half-German or half-Japanese Pinoy children wandering the streets of Manila knocking on car windows and begging for their next meal?!?!
Is the Zimmerman-Duterte Effect just some voodoo eugenic social science being peddled around by an anti-poor Pinoy-pride-piercing author of GRP with slight pro-dictatorial leanings? You be the judge.
Zealous revolutionary advocate of bringing back common sense for the common good in a land of dysfunctional and delusional zombies.
Another Racist sounding article I do not need to read. SUPERIOR STOCK ? WTF R U SMOKING ? and NO, I DO NOT WANT ANY !
Zaxx, you want to “repair” something through ‘nature”. But that wont work. You can only establish it by nurture. And thus, you dont need ‘foreign blood’. I guess you like Sweden and the Swedes. Now how did they get where they are now? By starting interracial relationships with people from Argentina?
I always said it that change/improvement/progress has to come from the people within. Those people may and can look abroad to see how they do it and then copy their behavior. But ultimately, it lies in the hands of the domestic people.
repair? were they even fixed to begin with?
nurture? who’s gonna nurture the next generation of Pinoys, the current generation of corrupt ones?
In the Mariusian viewpoint, the right word would be replacement (rather than repair). But that would be outright imperialist and dictatorial: which may lead to the start of WWIII in PH.
I prefer gentle hybridization, like a slowly creeping foreign invasion – just the way Moslems are invading Europe by immigration and multiplying like rabbits. I told you before Robert, better watch over your own backyard – are you doing your share in procreating pure breed Dutch children? Or are you simply resigned to allowing nature to take its course towards the extinction of your own kind?
You misrepresent or misunderstand my views, zaxx. I’m talking about introducing foreign talent at crucial pressure points, not simply occupying the country. The BOC and the BIR, for example, cannot function when staffed by Pinoys. It’s impossible. Get the Swiss to sort them out. After the initial fuss, people will go back to arguing about telenovelas or the latest bullshit on Facebook. Same with (for example) teaching; hire Finns. Or land administration; hire Australians.
The big advantage with foreigners running these departments is that they will be completely disinterested. They’ll be outsiders, with no connection to somebody’s brother-in-law who wants special treatment. They’ll get the job done impartially and honestly.
20 or 30 years later the foreigners can leave as quietly as they arrived. Or perhaps by that time Filipinos will be somewhat less racist and will be happy to let them stay.
How is that different from what I just said? You just amplified my point by giving an example of REPLACING Pinoys – i.e., replacing those corrupt workers at BOC and BIR with world-class foreign ones.
Then after 20-30 years you’ll turn the reins back to Pinoys again – for what? so they can fuck it all up all over again? O yeah, because PH will have already been bankrupt by then after hiring all those expensive White guys. But then, who in his right White mind would even want to work for the PH government to begin with?
Actually, having foreigners run agencies in PH would be ideal. However, your idea will be frowned upon by the natives because it appears imperialist and dictatorial. Pinoys getting fired from their stable jobs – with white guys taking their place. You will get mass protests and civil strife throughout the country.
Anything drastic like that will rock the boat. If you want to be a politician in PH, you need to deal with Pinoys the way top management bargains with the Union workers at huge automobile companies. Otherwise, they will simply go into berserk mode and drag the entire organization down the sinkhole with them.
Subtle and sneaky – that’s the way things get adopted by the masses. Make them think they’re not getting short changed in the deal. Hybridization of local stock does exactly what your replacement idea does, minus the mass protests. They’ll welcome this idea more because now their hybrid kids even become “That’s Entertainment” and “Miss Universe” material.
>> replacing those corrupt workers at BOC and BIR with world-class foreign ones.
Not permanently, and not even to do the job, as such. Their ACTUAL purpose would be to apply selection pressure on the gene pool. To be the farmers. If they were left to create (say) customs and tax and land titling systems that are fair and efficient, then honest, hard-working Pinoys could thrive (and reproduce). Layabouts and crooks would have a much smaller advantage in life.
Same with school. They job would not be to teach physics and math, but to brainwash young Pinoy kids
planting ideas for success in their heads.
Does it not strike you as odd that Filipino adults cannot be given new ideas while foreigners are (sometimes) more receptive? It’s not because Filipinos have terrible genes (well, not entirely). It’s because they’ve been programmed. Very carefully programmed. Once a mind is programmed, it’s very hard to re-program.
>> PH will have already been bankrupt by then after hiring all those expensive White guys.
Of course it won’t. You could run the entire tax and customs department with maybe 500 people if it were done properly. Let’s say a billion pesos a year. A billion pesos a year disappears into the pockets of Barangay captains, and nobody complains or even notices. Anyway, the whole POINT of the revenue agencies is that they COLLECT REVENUE. They will pay for themselves.
Once the correct pressures are established, Pinoys would start applying them all by themselves. Exactly as they now apply the harmful pressures they’ve been told to apply by the CCP and government.
>> However, your idea will be frowned upon by the natives because it appears imperialist and dictatorial.
I wonder, would they? Those agencies are universally hated. Honest businessmen (there are some!) would welcome the changes. The employees would be unhappy, of course, but they could be paid off. Money solves everything.
Actually I concede that the idea is unworkable, but not for the reasons you think. Despite your optimism about the new administration, the last thing the government wants is successful Filipinos. They will not allow this to happen. So, no, there will be no white faces at the BOC. There won’t even be any attempt at changing those corrupt organisations. So the economy will stay in the ER at death’s door.
Marius,
I fully support your ideas but I am afraid it will never happen. Why? Because it sounds too much as being colonized again (for Pinoys).
I once suggested to my pinay GF if she ever thought about doing something else with her lot (piece of land) with rice. My suggestion only almost led to WW3. I just asked her if she ever explored the possibilty to grow something else with higher revenues. It was a big “no go” and big “no no”. Did she ever explore and investigated other options? No.
That says enough for me about change and progress.
@robert, that one made me laugh. Rice (and farmers who insist on growing it) is one of my pet hates. Rice must surely be the most pointless crop on the planet:
– It has no food value
– It has no economic value
– It demands a huge input of labor
– It produces a very low yield unless you a very skilled farmer
– It’s a completely unsuitable crop for fragile tropical soils
– EVERYONE is growing it, so the middlemen will offer farmers the lowest possible price.
Growing rice is GUARANTEED to make you poor. There is no other possible outcome.
Come to think of it, rice is perhaps symptomatic of the Pinoy Way, which revolves around this question: “what can I do with my life that produces the worst possible outcome for myself and everyone around me?”
Marius,
it made me cry (not literally) but out of despair of not even wanting to try to consider searching for a crop that may have higher revenues (what we call: doing desk research and maybe some field research). Was it stubbornness? Was it: I will not listen to what a foreigner suggests?
It wont hurt (anybody) for even trying (to consider), right?
@robert: I’ve gone past crying and out the other side of despair. That’s why I mostly just post ridicule.
As regards rice, I believe the answer is the same as usual: brainwashing, programming, whatever you want to call it. Filipinos are actually taught in school that they must eat rice or they will die (it’s in the “textbook” I mentioned earlier, “Living Our Values”). Therefore, growing rice is a national imperative.
Zaxx,
when we take a look at the Dutch population (the population without all immigrants with a foreign non-western background), then we see that the population is declining. It is only increasing because of the influx of immigrants/refugees/asylum-seekers. There will come a point/time when the dutch people will say “enough is enough” (regarding allowing immigrants coming into the country).
So why is the (Dutch) population declining?
a) more and more (Dutch) people are not religious
b) women seeking a career and delay or completely postpone a child-wish
c) the tradional family-nucleus (mom, dad with one or more kids) is not seen as such anymore.
d) having kids cost money, time and effort. And today’s youth doesnt want to give up their freedom, hobbies and travelling (vacation) mode.
e) more and more young woman decide to stay single voluntarily (not even being/becoming a single mom)
Anyway, the Dutch culture and laws all encourage (or certainly not protest against) those “new waves”.
Robert, this is where Pinays get into the equation. Dutch men marrying Pinays can reverse that downward spiral of the declining native Dutch population, albeit not as pure-breed for your next generation.
Pinays generally don’t mind having lots of kids – they regard them as blessings.
Zaxx,
I also like to look at the bigger picture when considering making kids. My country – like every country – is limited in its size/area. We dont want to live on each others shoulders (privacy) (most of us want to live in a house with a front and back yard garden, a garage and a 3 storey house (ground floor, first floor & attic and maybe even a basement (for the wine)) . And we also want to make a career. Obviously, kids cost money, time and effort (a concept not very well known in PH). So are we becoming more sellish? I dont think so. We just know what we want (and DONT want).
And we dont need to make kids so that our kids have to support us when we are old and senile.
Zaxx: I wasn’t always a miserable, misanthropic troll. I came here with the Pallacertus view. Filipinos taught me that this view is wrong. It took me about three years to learn the lesson, because I’m stubborn, and I couldn’t believe that any human being would have “let’s hurt as many people as possible, including myself” as a primary life goal. Eventually I had to accept reality. That’s the Zimmerman-Duterte Effect in action, albeit in reverse.
Obviously, plenty of Filipinos are smart, honest, talented, and don’t have simmering psychological problems. However, as Amir Al Bahr wrote, they have to keep their heads down to avoid being beheaded. They have zero chance of attaining any position of influence, and the chances for outsiders are even smaller.
>> it is quite astounding to find Duterte, who has never lived in the first world, possessing the qualities and mindset of a progressive leader and citizen of a first-world country in the West.
It certainly would be astounding if it were actually true. Let’s take the “improvements” you mention:
>> We have free College tuition
We’ve had this discussion before. Something obtained for free is not valued. The universities in the Philippines are already at the bottom of the global academic pile, and shoveling hordes of stupid people through them is going to make things ten times worse.
Now, if the Philippines were a rich country, it could probably afford this sort of dabbling with the worst ideas of communism. A few trillion pesos wasted, lesson learned, let’s not do that again. The Philippines is NOT a rich country. It needs to make every centavo count. So subsidize education for those who prove they can give something back: the best and the brightest. Those who are lazy and stupid cannot be made less lazy and stupid by giving them a fake degree. Instead, make sure they get proper education up to age 12, instead of the ridiculous nonsense they are currently fed in their impressionable years.
>> free land for farmers (Agrarian reform implementation in full swing)
Another quasi-communist facepalm. “Pearls before swine” is the expression that springs to mind. Poor “farmers” are poor because they have no idea how to farm, so I’m going to call them landholders, not farmers.
99.5% of poor landholders – who have been accepting free land for decades – do one of four things: (a) immediately sell it (b) don’t pay the fees for transfer of title, and it gets confiscated again (c) let it stand idle or (d) plant rice on it, spray it with chemicals until it’s destroyed, and then leave it to grow cogon grass.
Again, the correct procedure would be to give land ONLY to people who prove that they can and will use it for the benefit of the country. Giving it to people who are poor is madness. They’ve proven by their poverty that they have no ability to manage a valuable asset. Or any asset at all.
>> double the salary for men in uniform
I won’t repeat myself at length: this only works if the man in the uniform isn’t a criminal or an idiot.
>> now freedom from income taxes for low-income wage earners under TRAIN!
Again, completely stupid. The aim should be to get people doing something useful and therefore earning more money, not to simply accept that they’ll never contribute anything to the country. The tax system itself is a disaster. Fix that first, then fiddle with the tax rates.
>> full-scale decentralization through mega-infra projects outside crammed MM
This is the one idea I can completely get behind … if it can be made to work.
Marius, the bottom line would always be: What are we going to do with the rest of the people who don’t deserve the things you mention in your comment?
@klara: it isn’t really about “deserving”. It’s about what works and what doesn’t. If you give a valuable asset – land, say, or four years at university – to someone who doesn’t have the brains or the desire to make use of it, you’ve done two bad things:
a) You’re forcing that person into a position which will not bring him any happiness;
b) You’ve prevented someone more suitable from making use of that asset.
But to answer your question, there are several things you could do that would help those who are “left out”:
Let’s say, for example, that the government just took back all of that land that’s currently doing nothing in the hands of incompetent people. They could then lease it out to people with demonstrable farming skills. This would bring instant income to the government, and give capable businessmen a chance to create a lot of valuable product. The people who have lost land could be compensated with some nominal amount – say P50,000 per hectare. This would cost the government nothing because it could simply print the money, confident that the economy will grow in proportion to this increase in the money supply. Some few (genuine farmers) could use that money to lease the land back again, so no harm done to them. The rest could spend it on KTV and Tanduay and lechon, as poor people usually do. After it’s all gone, they could get jobs working for the proper farmers. And that’s fine. There’s no point trying to force people to be something they’re not. If they just want a simple, steady job, then let businessmen provide those jobs.
Much the same thing applies to students who are incapable of getting degrees. It doesn’t MATTER if they don’t have degrees. It’s impossible that everyone can be smart enough to get a degree, and again, that’s fine. Just give them the best possible high-school education. As long as they’re taught to be honest, curious, and hardworking, anyone will be happy to employ them, and they will be happy working that way.
The bottom line is that nobody is responsible for your future except yourself. Perhaps you know the expression “you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink”. Most Filipinos just stand at the water’s edge looking vacant, expecting somebody else to open their mouths for them and pour the water in. The best you can do is raise the next generation of children with better ideas in their heads.
Give the correct value education to the new generation! Inculcate learning needed for progress and discipline… Revised the curriculim of the Elementary and continue revising their curiculum until they graduate….you will see a new generation with a different mindset…let the government do this…teachers must be the new graduates too who shall join the force of the new gen..
Of course, the competent IS logically deserving, and the ones who are left out still have to be dealt with.
I’m all for self-responsibility. And I’m well aware that being charitable doesn’t always result in “helping”, as with many other things. Even in learning, it’s usually with another’s “prodding”, and more importantly -on one’s own initiative.
If you missed the genius of what Duterte’s doing, I’ll just have spell it out for you Marius.
What you may consider to be a huge loss in the granting of the demands of these poor disgruntled peasants-turned-terrorists is actually a net gain for the country. How?
The NPAs destroy cell sites, transmission towers, torch buses and tractors, and kill innocent children. They have driven away so much opportunity. Duterte knows that quelling this decades-old rebellion is key to prosperity. And at this point he has just about broken the backbone of the communist insurgency. FDI, business, and tourism all come pouring in once you settle the peace and order issue. The gains far outweigh any optimum use of land you are talking about.
All these people want is to feel they’re getting a piece of the pie. Duterte’s giving them that illusion. It’s an illusion because they’re still actually taxed more when they drink Coke and Tanduay under the TRAIN law.
Eventually, as Filipinos get wealthier under a more peaceful ecosystem, they’ll also get smarter (in using land for example). Duterte displays a first-world mindset in solving problems, unlike the past administrations.
Zimmerman may be the unsung hero behind all this. We finally have a president who has first-world-class common sense, and who even speaks straight English too – what a relief.
>> What you may consider to be a huge loss in the granting of the demands of these poor disgruntled peasants-turned-terrorists is actually a net gain for the country.
He is going to give the country’s most valuable asset – land – to those people who are neither ABLE nor WILLING to use it. They will then destroy that asset, permanently, so that nobody else can ever use it. It would actually be less damaging to drop a nuclear bomb on the country: farmland can recover from a nuclear airburst in about 50 years. It takes centuries for nature to heal the erosion and chemical pollution caused by peasants.
So yes, it’s a huge loss for the country. Possibly the biggest possible loss anybody could dream up. So in what way is that “genius” exactly?
I already describe one option which would (a) cost the country nothing (b) generate an enormous amount of instant income (c) deliver jobs to all those men gossiping about communism (d) keep the technical ownership of the land in the hands of the state.
Do you see any technical problems with my alternative proposal?
>> Eventually, as Filipinos get wealthier under a more peaceful ecosystem, they’ll also get smarter (in using land for example).
Of course they won’t. How are they magically going to get wealthier? None of the proposals actually address the reason they’re poor: they don’t know how to turn ASSETS into WEALTH.
>> Duterte displays a first-world mindset in solving problems, unlike the past administrations.
Nonsense. It’s pure third-world thinking, the same tired old third-world “solutions” that keep every third-world country mired in poverty, ignorance and misery.
Klara seems to have similar views to you, zaxx. It seems to me that Filipinos are terribly obsessed with “fairness”. Here’s a lesson they need to learn: life is not fair. In fact, life sucks. Nobody “deserves” anything. And being chronically poor is perhaps the worst possible reason for being put in charge of the nation’s food supply.
Marius, there are highly competent people who are way ahead than today’s big shot capitalists who just happen to have a different mindset than (for example) somebody like Trump. I know it’s not about “fairness” in our traditional way of thinking about it. It’s about necessity. And I myself feel alienated from the Filipino culture but it’s always going to be a part of my identity.
Sorry klara, I have no idea what you’re saying here. Who are these highly competent people and what important things are they doing? I didn’t mention Trump. He isn’t even an example of a successful capitalist: he’s just a scam artist.
The mismanagement of land is one of the top three reasons the Philippines is poor. Let me illustrate why with benign0’s favorite example: jeepneys. There is only a certain amount of road space, and there are a certain number of people who need to get from A to B.
Now, imagine the government said: only poor people will be allowed to operate jeepney and tricycle services. We will select the guys driving the crappiest, smokiest, noisiest jeepneys, the most decrepit tricycles, and those who cheat customers and can’t drive, and we will give them licenses to operate. They’re poor and they need a helping hand. Anyone who gives good customer service, drives respectfully, has a nice shiny vehicle and a functioning muffler will have their license taken away. They’re rich and are clearly making too much profit.
How do you think that would work out for the general public?
If Duterte goes ahead with (another) CARP program, this country will experience another 50 years of poverty and inequality. Land is about the only asset this country has. For the love of God, rent it to people who actually know how to care for it and will produce something from it.
Sorry about the confusion MArius. The Trump example was about the “turning assets into wealth” that you said. Some current big players in the “market” are actually obstructing certain efforts for civilization advancement. ANd yeah, the govt should reconsider the land distribution plan. Most Pinoys still can’t manage assets well without some competent assistance. They still operate on punishment or reward cues, not able to grasp underlying reasons.
Oh I see, thanks for the clarification.
Trump’s skill, though, is doing the reverse: turning other people’s cash into HIS assets. I don’t know what you call that, but it’s not what capitalism is about.
I have absolutely no doubt that big players are deliberately hindering this country’s progress. Staying with the example of land, CARP programs been hugely profitable for the oligarchy. They know that “farmers” don’t actually want the land – they just want to sell it for cash. Which they do. At low prices. The sales are almost always illegal: you’re not allowed to sell CARP land within a certain time period, and since poor people never earn any profits from it, they never pay taxes.
The whole titling process is undermined. It descends into a morass of confusion as people make informal transfers, don’t conform to tax rules or inheritance rules, and eventually one of two things happens:
1) Some rich person with a lot of lawyers comes along, claims the land is his, and pays off whoever needs paying to get it transferred to his name. Sometimes he actually does own it informally, having paid some stupid low price for it (the “poor farmer” got it for free, so to him it’s worth nothing anyway).
2) The land is confiscated by the State, and is either carved up again (in which case the whole stupid cycle re-starts) or corrupt officials re-sell the title (see 1).
Either way, CARP keeps poor people poor, and rich people rich.
>> They still operate on punishment or reward cues, not able to grasp underlying reasons.
Yes, I’ve noticed this. Again, though, I think it’s deliberate. I think Filipinos are trained from a very young age to react this way. People who can be herded around like animals, using punishment and rewards, are very easy to control.
Racist crap which could have been written by Hitler or Mengele.
But wasn’t, actually written by a GRP staff…….the blog has gone past the Marcos Family mouth-piece directly down the Racist drain and smack dab into the gutter of racist scumbaggery ! OH BRAVO GRP……..NOT !
It’s nothing recent though, zaxx wrote a piece a few years back with a handy guide on which races to choose for your dream child / RPG character:
“1) Future basketball player or athlete – go for black muscular and agile African blood like a Michael Jordan
2) Future singer – go for blood with a solid booming voice like that of Italian tenor Luciano Pavarotti
3) Future businessman – go for North Asian blood (Chinese, Japanese, Korean)
4) Future Beauty queen – go for European, Australian, or American blood
5) Future IT professional – go for Indian blood”
http://getrealphilippines.com/2015/12/filipino-thirst-foreign-blood/
At least now he’s talking about cultural influence rather than just that magic blood.
Who’s talking about killing and incinerating hapless innocent natives? We’re just encouraging procreating hybrids all for the goal of catching some of that first-world juice/mindset into our hopelessly corrupt system.
Ask Pia Wurtzback if she regrets being half-German? Millions of future Filipinos will probably thank their parents they came across an article as dead honest and practical as this.
The Philippines will look like California- a melting pot of various races. You can’t stop the inevitable. It’s already happening.
“Crossbreeding works; if it doesn’t – prove it”
President Rodrigo Duterte’s eldest son Paulo Duterte, the scumbag father, just publicly scolded and called his own teen daughter Isabelle a disgrace to the Duterte family and referred to her as being ‘pimped’ by an unknown person twice.
Isn’t it ironic?!
Yup, and there goes Paolo resigning from VM out of delicadeza.
Don’t underestimate these guys (their Daddy DU30 won by wallowing in controversy, right). Did it ever occur to you they’re just putting up a show for mainstream/social media to feast on? Either that, or their Pinoy half (dark side) kicking in. In that case, more first-world blood infusion please… the magic’s starting to wear out down the bloodline.
Any race has its own weakness and strength. Crossbreeding may help, but , thru the Science of Genetics ; it is just a Theory. The German Nazis tried to produce a “master race”. They failed miserably. The “Master Race”, must be : blond, blue eyed, and purely white. Other races are called: “sub human”. They were destined to serve the , “master race”.
So, the German Nazi Death Camps were put, all over in Germany and other occupied Nazi territories; to eliminate the “sub humans”, like the Jews. Massive elimination, or extermination were done thru the Gas Chambers. They burned their victims, in massive crematoriums. Their clothes, shoes personal properties; including their gold teeth were recycled. They worked these sub human to death, until they cannot work anymore. Then, they were destined to the Gas Chambers, and finally to the crematoriums
Almost six million Jews and other minorities were murdered.We should never commit the same mistake again.
Some people are just born smart. Some are born stupid. Most of the stupid people, procreate more stupid people. This is the reason our country is populated by mostly stupid people !
Selective breeding does work. In animal husbandry, farmers select the best breed to improve their herds. Same goes with humans. When the Philippines was born, God dropped it on its head and that caused inferior humans to multiply in the country. When you breed fucktards with other fucktards, you get fucktards. I would declare an emergency and create caucasian sperm banks throughout the country. Any filipina that wants a baby, must be impregnated by a caucasians until IQ levels rise above 100 within the country. The Master Race. LOL!
I think zaxx has missed the whole point though: breeding programs create accelerated improvement because the farmer decides what “improvement” means. But humans aren’t animals. There is no “farmer” deciding which pair gets to mate and which gets culled. So you can’t just breed them like cattle. People have to create their own selection criteria, and they have to choose them wisely.
The only way to do that is through education, and people don’t have to be intelligent to absorb the right ideas about “improvement”. In fact the opposite is probably true: the gullible and the stupid are the ones who have absorbed that “go forth and multiply” crap from the CCP.
Genes operate in the context of culture. Even if you could do it (without, say, forcibly sterilizing every Filipino male) sperm banks wouldn’t work. The debate endlessly rages over whether genes or environment is dominant, but they’re two facets of the same thing. If you put pigs bred for foraging in an industrial pig factory, they’ll suffer and die. The farmer will lose money. Conversely, if you put a large white out to pasture, he’ll do OK, but he won’t thrive well enough to make profits. Filipinos are genetically adapted to their dysfunctional environment: they’ve bred into themselves whatever characteristics give them an edge in lying, cheating, and dodging work, because that’s what society expects of them. People from proper countries are badly-adapted to the Philippines – they get by, but mostly they don’t do well in a society that doesn’t value their abilities.
Get society to expect something different, and the dysfunctional genes will be selected away.
Did it ever occur to you that I am that farmer? By encouraging people to choose their mate wisely, the article writer leads the flock in the direction he so wishes.
And I say hybrids are good for PH. First world mentality being rubbed onto the next generation of Pinoys by first world parents is more effective than any program native Pinoys can ever think of.
No improvement? Hybrids get the best traits of both parents. Imagine a next generation that has common sense + resilience to hot/humid environments.
How else do you propose to change eternally corrupt Pinoy culture then? Teaching? Teaching doesn’t work – the church has been teaching Pinoys not to steal for 400 years now.
>> Did it ever occur to you that I am that farmer?
Unless you plan to go out there with enough calcium chloride and a truckful of syringes to neuter 20-30 million tambuays, you’re not the farmer. The farmer who runs a breeding program has absolute control over which animal mates, and which animal dies (or is segregated). You just can’t do that with humans. Well, you can, but nobody in their right mind would attempt it.
In any case you completely misunderstand the science of breeding:
1) I gave you the example of pigs. There is no such thing as a “best pig”; there is only the best for a SPECIFIC environment. As noted, foreigners really don’t thrive well here. They get by, but their genes are completely unsuited to the culture: that is, they are unable to express their best (potential) traits. Having common sense is not an advantage here. It’s a handicap.
2) Hybrids do not (necessarily) get the best traits of both parents, and the descendants of F1 hybrids are a complete mishmash. It takes at least 5 generations of careful selective breeding to maintain desired characteristics.
3) Even if you had – say – an influx of a million foreigners impregnating Pinoy females, their genes would be lost within one or two generations because the characteristics bestowed by those genes are not valued; the population at large will not select for them and perpetuate them.
Teaching doesn’t work because it’s Pinoys doing the teaching and writing the textbooks.
I had the misfortune to encounter (for professional reasons) a gaggle of Pinoy teachers not so long ago. They were an uncultured, ignorant, arrogant, badly behaved rabble. They were a disgrace to the profession. They all needed (1) a good spanking (2) sent off for re-employment as road-sweepers or toilet cleaners.
Do you remember the textbook series “living our values” from your schooldays? Those are the ones that teach Pinoys to be proud of singing KTV, “looking after their families” (as if nobody else on the planet does), and just being born Pinoy.
So if you want to bring foreigners in, put them in the classrooms, not in the bedrooms.
Of course I know that marius; you’re talking to me as if I never castrated a pig before.
The ultimate goal of breeding is to tailor fit the offspring so as to have the desired traits of both parents. Of course some will turn out bad; but what’s important is the possibility of getting good ones. Those that don’t meet the specs either die off naturally (like in natural selection) or are killed off intentionally/ made infertile.
Meanwhile Inbreeding is a dead end coz it adds no new “genetic” information.
Now we can’t possibly forcibly breed humans right? Which is why I’m only writing articles (not holding syringes) and why I am only a “farmer” – with the quotation marks.
The point of this article is more on cultural/mindset transfer – not really genetic engineering. If you don’t agree with the strategy of introducing foreigners into this hopelessly corrupt culture, then maybe you’re right about my having completely misunderstood.
>> what’s important is the possibility of getting good ones.
No, what’s important is the probability of amplifying and maintaining the good ones, over a long time period. A farmer maintains selection pressure forever (plants or animals). He never lets up. There’s no point in generating a one-off bunch of hybrids if the best of the bunch are instantly selected out by Filipino culture.
>> Those that don’t meet the specs either die off naturally (like in natural selection) or are killed off intentionally/ made infertile
No. The general tendency is for the population to revert to its wild form. You can easily try the experiment with, say, cabbages. If you save random seed over a dozen generations you’ll end up with something that doesn’t look remotely like what you started with (or wanted).
>> Meanwhile Inbreeding is a dead end coz it adds no new “genetic” information
Again not entirely accurate. In a population of 100m you have promising accessions already, and the potential to generate new ‘sports’. The problem is that those genes are being suppressed by the culture.
>> If you don’t agree with the strategy of introducing foreigners into this hopelessly corrupt culture
if you introduce their IDEAS first, the associated genetic traits will be amplified out of what exists already. As I said, the simplest thing you could possibly do to start this ball rolling would be to burn that textbook “living our values”. It’s polluted the minds of God knows how many impressionable Filipino kids. Start a campaign to have it destroyed and you will have achieved something.
LOL, Whenever I say “It’s blue”, you say “No, it’s light blue”. And when I say “It’s a dog”, you say “No, it’s a Great Dane”. You just gave me a fantastic way to win any debate every friggin time!
Now talking about dogs: The Great Dane is a large German breed of domestic dog known for its giant size. (wiki). Now that’s superior compared with the local native askal.
What happens if a Great Dane mates with an askal – you get a Miss Universe-class Pia Wurtzback. And what if Pia and Marlon Stockinger (another hybrid Pinoy) eventually have kids – will they be inferior to local stock? So what really is your problem with this fully functional model I am presenting. She is in fact changing Pinoy culture because she is now looked up to a ray of hope and an inspiration by many Filipinos.
No marius, ideas don’t work on Pinoys. IRRI is in PH. But why isn’t PH a mass exporter of rice? Because Pinoys are stupid enough to ignore the research findings. The Thais came over to study and learn in PH and now they are top exporters.
So you see, the only hope of PH is to get invaded by foreigners the gentle way. The same way we are begging Sumitomo to come back and maintain our MRT that was fucked up by Mar Roxas / Jun Abaya and co. the past admin.
White fathers training their half-breed Pinoy kid to read English books at a young age. Japanese mothers scolding their half-Pinay daughter to be “chanto” in their social behavior. Discipleship / modeling correct behavior by enlightened ones is the most effective way to upgrade the Pinoy mind. Look at Alan Cayetano and Richard Gordon; such hybrids are exactly the type of people we need to change the country.
But if you really insist in burning that book you’re saying, let’s hear it from you man. You can always submit an article to Benign0. Who knows – your idea might just find its way into Deped.
Here’s a recommended title for you’re article: Three reasons why the textbook “Living our Values” needs to burned to death. That used to be Grimwald’s favorite way of posting his ideas. I sure hope he’s gotten out of his depression already.
I’m not arguing over details, zaxx. Your description of genetic manipulation and gene expression is simply incorrect, or at least oversimplified to the point of being inapplicable to real life. To continue your example of Pia and Marlon, what would happen is this: their genes (and their “good parenting” memes, which you quite rightly point out are important) would be slowly diluted by Pinoy stock. By the fifth generation there would be nothing important left.
If you had, say, entire communities of halfbreed stock embodying good genes and good memes, what you suggest might be do-able. But there’s no way 5-10 million top-end sperm donors are going to come to the Philippines to marry Facebook-surfing Pinays, who will subvert everything that they are. You must have heard the horror stories. Filipinos actually consider it proof of their own superiority that they are able to reduce otherwise-normal foreigners to mentally compromised, penniless, homeless bums.
marius, you left one important factor out.
>> By the fifth generation there would be nothing important left.
Did you notice that Pia is a half-breed and Marlon is also a half-breed. Their offspring will also be STILL 50% half-breed. So for that 2nd generation, nothing is lost. Extrapolate that and you’ll see that your statement turns out to be incorrect.
So why didn’t Pia choose a native brown Pinoy? Once a Pinoy/Pinay becomes a hybrid, they they tend to marry their own kind. That’s why until now, you still see many mestizo/mestiza Filipinos with much of their ancestral European features and traits still intact, even after centuries of supposed cross-breeding since the original Spaniards came over to PH.
Humans don’t breed like the example you gave about cabbages. They have mental faculties to choose their mates with often stringent criteria. Your fear of the original first-world parent’s genes/culture getting diluted to oblivion is totally unfounded.
If you don’t believe me, try visiting Brazil, Colombia and Chile. If your theory DID work – after many centuries, everyone should be looking like the original native Americans by now. Empirical evidence trumps analysis paralysis. If you support hybridization by encouraging mixed marriage in PH, you’ll be doing this country an enormous favor. Every marriage with someone from the first world raises the average IQ of the PH population a notch higher.
>> So for that 2nd generation, nothing is lost.
Again, you’re not considering how inheritance actually works. It’s a lot more complicated than just ‘half-breed’ or ‘pure-bred’. Pia and Marlon’s children, like any F2 hybrid, would have a ragtag mixture of traits from parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. That’s why breed books for animals always contain details about “family lineage”. Unless a milk cow (for example) has a family history of high milk output, the fact that SHE has a high output is of relatively little interest.
>> That’s why until now, you still see many mestizo/mestiza Filipinos with much of their ancestral European features and traits still intact, even after centuries of supposed cross-breeding since the original Spaniards came over to PH. If you don’t believe me, try visiting Brazil, Colombia and Chile.
I agree. There is that. But remember those immigrant populations were huge (comparable to the indigenous populations). People could (and still can) easily find mates who are similar to themselves. But there is literally no reason for “good genes” to come to the Philippines en masse. For one thing, the government doesn’t permit it – no professional, for example, is allowed to work here. So the people who tend to stay and marry are, basically, Pinoys with a different skin color.
Simply being “Western” doesn’t make you inherently superior, smarter, etc. It’s just that the Western environment allows better genes to survive, so there tends to be more of them. We still have large populations of “Pinoys” – unemployed, obstreperous, criminally inclined layabouts – in other countries. They come to the Philippines precisely because they find an environment where they can fit in.
@Jimmy Johnson:
We are dealing with human beings , not animals. People can talk, and are the most intelligent specie in the animal kingdom.
Looking for what specie could be the best source of food, is much different from looking for specie, that is the smartest, and can think the best .
They could consider eating the right food.
‘Controversial’ as we all know, is often a euphemism for ‘interesting and intelligent.
Interesting article. As a psychology student, I’ll put in my two cents here.
Psychologically speaking, though everyone has differing genetic predispositions, habits and mentalities are generally acquired through reinforcement from passing on from a previous generation or inculturation. In other words, third-world mentality isn’t hardwired in our DNA; rather, it’s learned precisely because the society is already third-world to begin with. You’d have to consider the fact that a lot of Filipinos who move abroad become relatively more disciplined, for instance.
It isn’t a matter of ancestry. You can have a pure Irish person be adopted by native Filipinos and he will have a third-world mentality. Likewise, if a foreign couple from a first-world society raises a native Pinoy, the child will adopt a first-world mentality as well. As for your half-German/half-Japanese question, it is highly likely that such children are already wealthy to begin with and don’t need to beg for food. Another possible explanation would be that such people were raised with elements of a first-world mentality.
Yes, I do believe that crossbreeding can help in the issue, though it’s not about genetics. Right now, we can have expatriates from first-world countries, but even though they mingle with native Filipinos, there will always be these “they are not us” and “you do you, I do me” mentalities on both sides. Crossbreeding with, or at least being raised by first-worlders, allows for better assimilation of such mentalities.
And to those who will react before reading and comprehending this, I am not racist; I did not support any claim about genetics here. I do, however, disagree with cultural relativism. Some cultures are better than others and each can learn from the positives of others.
Been a week since this article was posted, zaxx. Hope you’d still see this and continue the discussion. If you’re interested, I could shed light on the very relevant “minority influence” theory later on. 🙂 Props to you!
@firewall: well-written. However I would argue the genes-vs-environment debate is not a chicken-vs-egg scenario; the two are inextricably intertwined. Society reinforces certain inheritable traits AND vice-versa.
You may be aware that a lot of personality characteristics are biologically (genetically) determined. People who are born shy, or extrovert, or risk-takers have their natural tendencies reinforced or suppressed by their interactions with others.
Example: in the Philippines, many people realize that lying, cheating, stealing and violence are very effective ways to stay ahead; those behaviors are rewarded and encouraged. In other countries, these people would be in jail by the time they reached adulthood, and therefore somewhat less likely to pass on their faulty genes (and ideas).
I’d further like to expound on your point. In the case of the example that you gave, we’d definitely have to take into consideration the setting.
Take risk-taking tendencies, for instance:
(1) In the Philippines, such daredevilry would be manifested in deviant behavior due to desperate situations (and also since people notice that they can reap the benefits and get away with their crime).
(2) In a first-world country, such daredevilry would be channeled into making high-stake business decisions and the like.
Same trait, different outcome. I don’t think there’s any set of genes that a nation carries that causes it to be in a rut. It’s a societal issue that causes people to use their traits and tendencies for worse than for better. The West, for instance, was in the oppressive and regressive Dark Ages due to their heretic-hunting mentality, but eventually marvelously progressed into the Renaissance, Industrial, then Modern eras. And now, they’re riddled with regressive libtard snowflakes. Same race, yet differing levels of progress between eras.
Mentality is largely a product of stimuli. If the Philippines were to change its “squatter mentality”, we’d have to bring in a new “era.” That’s why I’d actually support a dictatorship, provided that the leader is capable and is really out for the progress of the country and not just looking to abuse his position for personal gain. Someone who’d say “I know what I’m doing. You can rant and rave all you want, but your backward mentality will not get in my way. You will thank me later.” When conditions improve, so too will people’s mentality.
>> Same trait, different outcome.
Absolutely. I made this point earlier to zaxx. He seems to believe that the traits the country needs do not exist in the native gene pool. Of course they do: they’re just being misdirected or suppressed. Given the correct environment, those traits will start to reassert themselves in socially-useful ways.
>> That’s why I’d actually support a dictatorship, provided that the leader is capable
Unfortunately, a lot of people have thought this way throughout history. They figured a bargain with the devil would be worth it if the outcome were positive. The problem is that no dictator has ever worked in this manner: all dictators, historically, have been vile people interested only in their own power, and attracted similar followers to implement their vile ideas.
Remember a dictator cannot act alone: he has to have a critical mass of supporters to enforce his diktats. Can you imagine how that would work out in the Philippines, where a significant minority (by some professional estimates, a third of the population) have mental illnesses or personality disorders?
You don’t actually NEED a dictatorship. You just need competent, boring bureaucrats getting things done. As (I think) ChinoF remarked, Filipinos have never seen such a thing, so they imagine it’s the same as being “ruled by an iron fist”.
>> The West, for instance, was in the oppressive and regressive Dark Ages due to their heretic-hunting mentality, but eventually marvelously progressed into the Renaissance, Industrial, then Modern eras.
This is a bit of an over-simplification. Civilization has always been a balancing act. Most outsiders don’t realize that the US (for example) was virtually a third-world country well into the 20th century, plagued by problems Filipinos would recognize: corruption, waste of public resources, inequality, pollution, environmental destruction, complicated tax/business laws. Europe, in the decades after WW2, looked a lot like Manila.
The only thing that makes The West better than the Philippines is the attitude of the majority: we will not accept second-best; we will not accept wrongdoing, cruelty, and abuse; we will not accept poverty and injustice. This has to some extent morphed into the “snowflake” phenomenon (AKA “first world problems”), but it’s the foundation of what the West is.
Perhaps the question of whether the difference is due to genetics or due to nurture is ultimately irrelevant. The fact is, there is something about Philippine society that predisposes it to collective mediocrity. As Marius mentioned, the “inextricably intertwined” way genes and setting contributes to an emergent outcome at the macro level makes deciding which of the two is at work quite pointless.
Whilst we may observe that Filipinos could be well-behaved and “decent” people in a First World setting, we could also note that their presence even in large numbers over there does nothing to elevating their profile as an ethnic community. Take the Filipino community in the US, for example. It is one of the biggest minority ethnic groups there. Yet, Filipinos are virtually an invisible cultural bloc there. We have the population to show, but not much else.
It’s like Filipinos lack some kind of killer instinct to explore, innovate, and differentiate. There are no groundbreaking leaps in creativity and achievement that puts Filipinos on the map as a people. Despite the much-vaunted talent in the arts, for example, Filipinos do not consistently contribute artistry to humanity’s body of work at a value that is commensurate to our numbers.
We can see that these inclinations — or shortcomings — seem to be consistent on any setting.
Hmm… I hope this isn’t irrelevant, but while you mentioned an example, I’d like to drop yet another 2 cents here. Perhaps one reason why Filipinos don’t have much curiosity and interest is that we tend to ride off on another Filipino’s success and stop there. Rather than being inspired by such people to actually do such works, many will just simply say “Proud 2 Be Pinoy” and end there. (Luckily, however, this attitude of riding off on”Pinoy Prayd” is already becoming a laughable meme on the internet, so I’d say people are starting to become more aware of this bad habit, though there are still some who take offense and continue such mentality.)
Many developments are built upon previous successive efforts. What one starts, others must continue otherwise development will be stunted. Case in point: PAL was the first commercial airline in Asia and Filipinos took pride in that. Did we competitively develop it? Nope, at least not until recently. Even though other Asian airlines were already ahead of us in the race of airline quality, Filipinos still had this “At least kami yung nauna. Pinoy pride!” way of thinking.
There are, indeed, characteristics many Filipino hold that stunt our people’s cultural/developmental/commercial/etc progress. One of which, as I highlighted, is “Pinoy prayd.” It’s leading us to complacency. If there’s anything that needs to be ingrained the most in the country right now, it is that love for country is not about the number of Pinoy pride merchandise you own, but the willingness and efforts you put into improving it.
The “Pinoy Pride” thing is the main reason I suggested “Living Our Values” needs to be taken out to the town square and burned. That’s where the idea comes from. You probably can’t even remember it: that’s what makes brainwashing so powerful.
The same book inadvertently tells Filipinos how to ruin their farmland (I imagine because the author is simply ignorant rather than malicious) and to annoy the neighborhood with tuneless KTV at every hour of the day.
I wouldn’t normally suggest book-burning, but that one is a compendium of every self-destructive meme the Filipino holds dear. It is so vile, so harmful, and (apparently) hammered home so thoroughly, that something drastic needs to be done.
Here’s a sort of related take on cultural cross-pollination although more from an economic perspective also written by Zaxx… Can Chinese Filipinos Make the Philippines Great Again?