Indeed, as my colleague Ilda quipped the other day, Philippine President Benigno Simeon ‘BS’ Aquino III’s apologists are desperately defending the notorious Disbursement Acceleration Program (DAP). The Old Celebrity Guard have come out again in droves. Leading them is noted 1970’s-era singer Jim Paredes who shouted out on Twitter the Official Apologists’ Mantra…
Can the SC be wrong? The SC legalized martial law. While they may be final arbiter i dont hold them infallible.
I’m sure Paredes is well aware that nobody truly is “infallible”. Not even him, considering that he has, on many cccasions demonstrated an astounding yawning inconsistency when it comes to matching his personal philosophies and his political leanings.
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Unfortunately, in a star-struck society like the Philippines, celebrities are regarded as infallible. And that is the sort of environment where Paredes thrives.
Nowhere is this sad reality about Philippine society more evident than in the way the nation’s “thought leaders” (and Jim, being the celeb that he is could arguably be counted as one of such) parse information and derive their conclusions. One such conclusion is around what makes GetRealPhippines.COM itself tick.
We were fortunate to be afforded a peek into how Paredes thinks with regard to that when he paid us the honour of a visit to our humble Facebook Page last night. It so happens we had shared a screenshot of the above seminal tweet where he delivered his personal two-cents on the matter of how wrong the SC was about declaring the DAP unconsitutional. Apparently, that little gesture of ours was enough to hook in the man himself. Suffice to say, Paredes quickly got down to business accusing us of — what else? — being “paid hacks” of the family of former President Ferdinand Marcos.
That’s par for the course for GRP, of course. After all, you can’t really expect much of a coherent argument from people like Jim Paredes, for one, considering that people like him have spent pretty much of their entire life being pandered to by their fans. To be fair, an ability to step outside of one’s self and evaluate one’s own ideas from an outsider’s perspective tends to atrophy after prolonged exposure to such comfy environments.
But the more revealing thing we found out about Jim Paredes is far more disturbing. Jim Paredes is a liar. Not content with accusing GRP of banning him from commenting on the page (which we did not do), he went on to rally his fans around him on his own profile to assure him that he is in good company.
Sure, Jim. Whatever works for you. But of course one would be in good company in their own Facebook profile. When you are always in the company of like-minded people who assure you that your ideas are always right, guess what: you start believing it! Worse, you start believing your own lies. Sound familiar? Of course it does. Because that is exactly the even more disturbing revelation the Filipino public was treated to last night following President BS Aquino’s address to the public on the matter of this whole DAP fiasco. No less than the President of the Philippines himself has come to believe his own lies.
Showbiz does, indeed, reflect Filipino society. And we only have Jim Paredes to thank for further reenforcing that little lesson.
benign0 is the Webmaster of GetRealPhilippines.com.
“I don’t think you can take the heat for even 5 minutes. You’d probably have everyone arrested and silenced.” – Jim Paredes
LOL. Meanwhile Jim, the unresolved cases of defenseless peasants murdered for pursuing reform in some sugarcane plantation in Tarlac remains silent…
This is a paid Pro-Marcos page? Wow, halatang emotion ang pinairal sa comment na yun a, hindi utak. You really know your profession well, being an entertainer. And Mr. Paredes dares “kung matapang ka talaga, you should expose your real name.”? Sir, non of us have the luxury of being protected by connections, famous names, private armies, money and what have you. The moment people like us who really think about what is good for our country and becomes a threat, there is a high probablity that we won’t see the light of day. If Mr. Paredes can’t take constructive criticism and handle the truth, he should just shut up and stay irrelevant. He was never relevant to begin with.
si jim paredes lang naman ang matapang dito pero bakit suntukan at patayan ba ang labanan di ba paliwanagan lang?
dapat kay jim gumawa na lang ng kanta dun sya magaling !!!!
Yessss!!! well said!
They don’t know that they can never defend their ampaw president from being criticised because they can’t accept the fact that Mr. Aquino broke the law and defied the constitution.
They resort to attacking without providing a real rebuttal against the critics, that is also why they’re spreading false rumors
against the critics of Mr. Aquino.
I use the same first name, but please never ever confuse me with that dingbat!
If you have to lie to make your point how good is your point??
“Who’s the more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him?” Ben Kenobi
Jim Paredes I saw you there in Camp Crame during EDSA one and only. I was a military volunteer trying to stop people from killing each other. For that… I was called a genuine EDSA hero. You have changed. We fought peacefully for freedom. Why do you condemn the Supreme Court for and in behalf of BS Aquino? This son of cory was hiding when we were at EDSA one and only. There is only one thing I can say to you and your despot idol. Go to Hell!!!
Benigno, why don’t you just accept the “hamon” of Mr. Paredes to show up and expose your real identity and all the other writers of this site and debate with him in open forum fair and square? What’s stopping you, really? He told you to be a real man not like this as immature hiding in your comfy territory. Hundreds of braved journalists and writers in their true identities have had put their lives at risk just to expose what they deemed as “evil” and “corruption” in the government. You think, they are stupid? well, to me they are doing the noble thing. It seems you just prove your downright cowardice. It seems you are only brave at criticizing other people’s matters without being truly responsible for it. Since you are very vocal at criticizing the Philippine status quo and its entities, and want other people to give importance at your articles (because you are spreading these in social medias), I guess it’s high time to unveil your real self.
“To be fair, an ability to step outside of one’s self and evaluate one’s own ideas from an outsider’s perspective tends to atrophy after prolonged exposure to such comfy environments.”
I guess this statement would backfire on you. You are deliberately criticizing Mr. Paredes and yet you cannot be real. Your website entitled getrealphilippines is just an absolute hypocritical to the nth level since you cannot be real with your self. Get real, dude. Even if I’m not exposing my true name here but it doesn’t matter because I’m just an ordinary OFW not creating any importance and “pansin” to the Filipino people with my scathing articles in social media.
Yeah sure. Tell him to explain first why he lied about being banned from commenting on the GRP Facebook page.
We can’t really move on until that little detail is resolved first.
LOL. You are quibbling about trivial thing as if you are expecting too much from him. At least he is true to his real self and he can be directly criticized by the people who know him and who follow him on social media (both on his personal and public life) if he has done something wrong. His identity is already exposed in public eyes, unlike you, you are hiding. That’s why he told you to man-up. Why don’t you tweet or comment him on his profile page and introduce yourself using your real name and photo and ask him why he “lied” to GRP? That will be a good start since GRP has started this making a big deal on his short opinion about SC and then complained later on about his “lying.” You think you have credibility as a writer? you are kidding yourself.
Benign0 has a right to remain anonymous (even if paredes thinks he has already zeroed in on your identity). Giving in to paredes’ challenge will only bring benigno0’s level down to paredes’ level. Why? It’s like an answer to “square tayo!” and go ahead with a fistfight.
Anonymity is a gift the internet offers that you should not squander. I hope all will learn that. It allows us to be more forward with our opinions. Let’s face it, in the superficial filipino culture, what others think of ourselves matters most, and we are usually hampered by our “hiya” of thinking differently.
furthermore, being anonymous also allows me to get away with saying go fuck yourself, Jigs.
You just proved yourself you are not worthy of someone like Mr. Paredes’ attention. That’s why I can understand him if he directly block those anonymous people commenting on his post in social media. It’s like making “patol” to a computer-generated identity. But to me, in GRP it’s just fair because writers here are not using their real names anyway. If Mr. Paredes talked trash or lied on GRP’s page then you have to understand because this page has no true identity and writers are not credible anyway.
Uguk ka pala Mr. T! ano ibig mo sabihin ng You just proved yourself you are not worthy of someone like Mr. Paredes’ attention. Bakit ng kumakanta yan sila nagpipilit sila na magpakamasa nagpapakababa sila para maabot ang majority ng pinoy tapos ngayon yan ang hirit nya ulol sya o baka sa iyo lang yun na paliwanag? gusto mo suntukan tayo sports lang tapos parang walang nangyari!!!!
oh yes, i am not worthy of his highness’ attention! the blinding light of his showbiz aura will definitely burn me until my soul bursts into flames.
that aside, i really do hope all will realize how important anonymity and privacy are. its one of the last true forms of freedom in the world today. will you divulge YOUR real identity, Jigs? well, i wont. my anonymity is more important than your ego. So here’s another FUCK YOU JIGS and a toast to anonymity!
tama naman….bakit ano ba ang hanap ni Jim Paredes idolo ko pa naman yan pagdating sa pagawa ng kanta! di ba debate lang ito hindi suntukan? kung gusto nya suntukan ako hamunin nya sports lang tapos nun para walang nangyari ano? pero kung patayan ayaw ko sya na lang… di ko kaya pumatay ng tao
There you go…
You regard LYING as a “trivial” thing. That says a lot about Jim Paredes’s and your character.
One can’t really expect to have a decent discussion with a LIAR. Tough luck. Just the same, nothing is stopping him from showing his lying face here. Sort of like you. You can come over here and post your drivel anytime (subject to moderation, of course, if we see that you are merely adding repetitive info rather than adding to the discussion).
The problem with the Philippines is that it has become disensitised to liars and regards lying as a ‘trivial’ thing.
And that’s a bad thing.
And you really expect Mr. Paredes to have decent discussion with GRP on Facebook even if you bashed him of being an idiot first without countering a sound argument about his opinion on SC? You were the one who initiated him the no-breeding mentality and here you wrote about his “nonsensical showbiz” response to GRP after you screenshot his post. And you call him a liar, as if you did not lie and as if you are perfect. I guess liar is better than a coward/pussy. I lied everytime I make a conversation with a computer-generated identity – I guess this is similar to what Mr. Paredes had in mind when he was assumed to lie about GRP’s banning him from commenting on GRP’s account because he felt like Benigno is not a real person or just a chicken hiding from his comfy website. I think unless you divulge your real identity, you cannot expect Mr. Paredes to be civil and give you a coherent and decent discussion.
@Jigs, yes that is right. Jim Paredes is a liar. So that means there is no expecting having a “decent discussion” with him. That’s an impossibility when it comes to dealing with liars.
You seem to be worrying about this more than he is. Take it easy. If the boss ain’t worrying, why should you worry?
@ jigs
It doesn’t really matter who conceived the idea that the earth is spherical, it can be from anybody or an alien for all we care, but it doesn’t change the fact that the earth is spherical.
Putting a person behind the name “Benign0” will not change facts cascaded through GRP.
My cellphone, it works, but I do not give a hoot who invented each and every part of it. Knowing the people who made the cellphone what it is will not change the fact that it works.
Why do you people keep insisting that for a statement / idea / logic to be credible / true you need a name behind it? That is what is wrong with this country. Always about personalities but never about substance.
Joeld, it’s not just about substance, it’s about responsibility also. Being anonymous gives you the notion of escaping. And that makes writers thinking here. They can say whatever they want to a person they don’t like and spread their ideas or even lies in social media without being afraid of the repercussion because they knew anytime they can escape from their irresponsible ideas. Why, after all these years, they are still hiding? what’s really the purpose? why other vocal writers in other media are exposing their real identities and will take into account whatever dissenters will throw at them both in their personal and professional lives? they are also not afraid to land in jail or worse die while keeping their principle. That would give you ideas about the difference. You can surmise then that GRP writers are just braved hiding under the table while shooting bullets against their enemies. A real spineless creatures.
Then why do you bother coming here ? You claim we are liars and BS artists. Oh I know why . You and Paredes are here to legitimize a liar and a BS artist. Granted pork went to pay for your sorry a$$e$ . I love that fantasy about us being financed by Marcos money since they sure are getting a lousy ROR from a guy like me. Anybody who glorifies a charlatan like BS Aquino deserves the wrath of GRP. You can ignore us if you wish but then again tells don’t have a choice since you are ASSIGNED here . Just go away Jigs. Love your idol but don’t love him here.
@jigs
So now it comes down to knowing the person to crucify. So much for your so-called “freedom”.
Site instances where writers here “say whatever they want to a person they don’t like and spread their ideas or even lies in social media without being afraid of the repercussion because they knew anytime they can escape from their irresponsible ideas.”
The opinions written here are just opinions, but do not forget that these are based on facts which up to now you have been trying to taint with your propaganda and have failed countless times, miserably.
Jigs, why do you even bother going here if you claim that this site is full of “liars” as you claim? You claim that you’re not a malacañang troll yet your actions, spiels and your constant changing of ip addresses destroys any credibility that you have.
So what if we’re using aliases?
What’s your point?
Your attempt to discredit GRP has failed yet again.
You better just get a REAL JOB instead of continuing to lick Mr. Aquino’s hairy A$$.
Your claim of being an OFW is already proven as false so don’t bother coming back.
put tank in a mall! peyup’s favorite troll who tries to hit up on the girls there. lol!
Why is exposing all the other writers so important to you Jigs? I know you are crawling in the corner crying in the fetal position since your idol could not have handled last night any worse. We did not pick your idol , you did. We are not part of the MCG troll brigade you are. Paredes is lying because he is hurting and all you can do is revel in being a Malacanang troll. GRP must really be hurting feelings of the Noytards to incur their wrath. Face it. If we were not effective you would be in a corner doing who knows what to a picture of Butch Abad.
GRP started making a war against Mr. Paredes. He is not a public official, as so you knew. And when he demanded about your real identities just to pinpoint his real critics, here you are not willing to give and making lots of excuses? that’s cowardice on your side.
He sings the praises of a public official. Legitimizes a moron, so accept all that comes with it. Just like you. Gladly fall on a grenade for a brainless one. Great minds talk about ideas not defending clueless morons. Is Jigs in your drivers license ? Malacanang Communications Group trolls legitimate thinkers with taxpayer money and that is kept secret Einstein.
“Malacanang Communications Group trolls legitimate thinkers with taxpayer money and that is kept secret Einstein.”
You are accusing me of that but when someone like Jim Paredes accused GRP as paid account then all the while, GRP is asking, “what’s your basis?” I laugh a lot.
You laugh a lot yet here you are. Face it , you are assigned here. Can’t get a real job. Supporting that which can’t be supported. Unaccomplished 54 year old slacker who pole vaulted over his mom’s corpse. That genius argues with the SC applauded by you and Paredes.
What is wrong with being anonymous ? I rather let my writing be my identity . Besides better to be anonymous in a country whose government is run by onion skins who can’t take legitimate criticism by anonymous writers therefore combat with anonymous trolls and pass tyrannical censorship laws sa bubong nang bahay right Jim Paredes???? Or are you too busy savoring that Aquino “brown” ?
Yeah, so what’s wrong with being anonymous eh Mr Malacañang troll in denial?
Who are you to question our choice of being anonymous?
Or is it just your boss’s order to find out the identities of the ones that keep destroying his propaganda and have them taken away?
The rooster will crow again if you deny that you are not a malacañang troll.
Maybe jigs the dakilang mangongontra here is planning to kill us all once we show him our true identities. Ooh I’m scared.
That is expected of someone who denies that he’s a malacanang troll yet the rooster crows everytime he denies being a malacanang troll.
I knew that he wouldn’t be able to resist trolling here even after getting beaten everytime at his own game.
He is afterall, a mindless member of the yellow army.
bakit tol patayan ba ito? di ba paliwanagan lang? ikaw din tol nagtatago ka din sa aliases…… pen name ang tawag dyan tol ganun talaga si jose rizal nga merong pen name dimasalang at laong laan si marcelo h. del pilar ginagamit nya plaridel… ano naman ang kaso dun?
uguk ka jigs gusto mo sabihin mo kay jim ako hamunin nya kahit ikaw basta isa isa lang…..
I swear too many idiotic pnoy followers are roaming in the internet..
Reading comments in facebook news pages like abs cbn with comments like ” pinoy is the best president ever.. Makes me want to grab a knife and stab somebody.
And now I feel that if that intensifies, this country will suffer a nationwide civil war.
Noytards are spreading. Walking Dead, run for your lives!
We better do this to all of those yellow nazi zombies then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqid90JR6BY
These Noytards can’t see beyond the Aquino name, ang sabi nga they don’t want to hear the truth because they don’t want their illusions destroyed.
Neither BS Aquino nor Jim Paredes are infallible, but they talk as if they are, & that they know better than the SC.
This is the problem with people whose loyalty and attachment are to personalities, a ‘clique‘, or celebrity/social privileges which are fleeting, rather than to right principles which are timeless.
The sober deliberations of the SC is way more more reliable than the gripes of a sentimental has-been, who leverages his celebrity, by coaxing the author of the above article to reveal him/her-self, in order to prey on the gullible into thinking that Paredes’ opinions should be given more weight—-instead of forming one’s conclusions based on the inherent merits of the arguments themselves, put forward by both sides. The need to focus on the arguments themselves, objectively, and not on the personalities dishing them out is precisely the point of the anonymity. Of course, to sentimentalists like Jim Paredes, everything becomes personal—objectivity, optional.
Felipe
“instead of forming one’s conclusions based on the inherent merits of the arguments themselves, put forward by both sides. The need to focus on the arguments themselves, objectively, and not on the personalities dishing them out is precisely the point of the anonymity. Of course, to sentimentalists like Jim Paredes, everything becomes personal—objectivity, optional.”
You talked like you knew the issue firsthand. Let me encapsulate and recap the faulty element of this little dispute.
Jim Paredes posted this on twitter “Can the SC be wrong? The SC legalized martial law. While they may be final arbiter I dont hold them infallible.”
GRP made a screenshot on this post and put a caption of “idiotic PNoy apologist on twitter” without giving a good counter argument with Mr. Paredes post.
This is the reason why Mr. Paredes felt being attacked by GRP personally and thus he posted on his fb page on the above article “calling names is not a rational argument. It is for those who are intolerant and perhaps stupid” and “GRP is a paid account. Deny it to death won’t change it” among others.
Yet Benigno is saying here “After all, you can’t really expect much of a coherent argument from people like Jim Paredes, for one, considering that people like him have spent pretty much of their entire life being pandered to by their fans.”
Coherent argument, eh? Now, you see, GRP is orchestrating the very kind of mentality which they discourage against Filipinos, the VICTIM MENTALITY. You cannot really blame Jim Paredes why he resorted to that kind of response to GRP. It’s GRP’s mess after all.
@Jigs
Basically, you’re defending a guy who lied, and ultimately a President who broke the law, plain and simple.
You conclude “victim mentality” based on the exchange of arguments that do not support it.
People enlightened & motivated, with a passion for writing—unfettered by yellow rhetoric & financial support, need not have to be paid to share their observations, especially when mass media tend to leave these kinds of viewpoints out of the picture.
Jim Paredes the LIAR. 😀
Like the saying goes:”birds of a feather flock together”
Jigs and Jim Paredes have things in common:
Both are proven to be liars
Both are always beaten at their own game of trolling
Both are going to regret supporting Mr. Aquino soon.
regarding paredes claiming he was blocked.
it dawned on me the mentality that “filipinos dont think, they just react”, so he probably threw a fit when his browser failed to load the “add comment” field (fb does that sometimes).
so that promotes him from liar to overreacting techno-ignoramus.
o ayan jigs, dinefend ko yung idol mo, pero FUCK YOU pa rin.
” The problem with the Philippines is that it has becomedisensitised to liars and regards lying as a ‘trivial’ thing.” – BOOM. Someone will probably argue somewhere along these lines “why? haven’t you lied before in your life?” It is the reasoning behind the quote that is deeply embedded in the culture of us Filipinos that drive us to the depths of hell… mahilig tayo magpalusot pag may nagawa tayong mali. wala tayong isang salita. And to top it off, lying being shrugged off as a “trivial thing” clearly shows how most Filipinos lack ethics nowadays…
More documentation surrounding Jim Paredes’s LYING ways…
One thing I can say about the guy: he’s consistent — when it comes to LYING, that is.
Taking a cue from his lying idol. What can I say? He idolizes somebody useless. What does that say about him?
Same thing can be said about people trying to defend Mr. Aquino(like Jigs) even though they really can’t defend someone who willingly disregarded the constitution for his own twisted purposes
It’s like they’re trying to justify a genocide or something just as bad if not worse as an act of good faith.
Being the PR government that it is, it means that the Yellow KKK employs liars as a regular thing. And you can actually prove it.
If there is anything good in this page, it is name calling. And it never runs out. We are so fond of taking ourselves lightly. Even our own future. That’s why we stay the same. Underrated.
On the thinking processes of singer cum political apologist for Pnoy, Jim Paredes, I think it would serve him well to stick to critical thinking rather than a propagandist of anyone should he desire to be counted among the thought leaders of this generation of social networking habitues.
@Jim, u may not aware that the president is creating divisions among the people that instead of having a one united front he is building a distinctive group called “social class citizen” that wud uplift the country’s image from having been bad. let alone the poor class domestic helpers, for them they are considered a luckless people.
I don’t mind him anyway. what i feared most if this Yel-LOW-IQ disease grip & restrict their mind to think freely like humans then it will be the end of sanity.
so beware of YEL-LOW-IQ PROPAGANDA!