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Does Carlos Celdran have class and intelligence? Apparently the answer to that is a resounding NO.

Recent events have exposed the true character of this man. As much as he thinks he is doing the Philippines a great service, his actions and way of thinking only proves how unintelligent and low-class he is. It is very unfortunate that he has become a public figure that blinkered Filipinos follow, which has further contributed to the collective idiocy of the Filipino people.

Last month, he started an online petition against building a high rise condominium near the Rizal monument. Apparently, it was said that the buildings will destroy the view of the park. Furthermore, he likened the situation to France’s city of Paris where the Eiffel Tower is located — never mind the fact that Paris is Paris and Manila is still the stinky and dangerous city that it is. Ineed, Manila has been and continues to be the laughingstock of emerging Asian economies. It is a place where prostitutes chase white men and where you can’t use your smart phone for fear of being mugged.


[Photo courtesy Foter.com.]

I do not know what is there to preserve. I would definitely understand why the government of France would not dare build high rises anywhere near the Eiffel tower in a way that might ruin its view. They can afford to make such decisions and act on them because despite the economic mess Europe is currently experiencing at the moment, France is still a First World country. Plus, that’s the Eiffel Tower we’re talking about — one of the most popular tourists destinations in the world.

The Philippines, in contrast, is still Asia’s third world slum. Last time I checked, no one in their right mind really wants to undergo the Manila experience. The city has still to earn its place among the world’s great cities. For now, Filipinos should focus on job creation instead of worrying about monuments which are irrelevant to the turmoils the Philippines is experiencing.

Celdran had also posted a map depicting China as part of Philippine territory. This is would have been laughable if it weren’t for the fact that it highlighted even more the Republic of the Philippines’ weak military and outdated ships. Of course, Carlos did not just post the picture, he told China to kiss the Philippines’ “98 million asses”. Of course it’s not as if the People’s Republic of China would give Celdran the time of day given his lack of class and uneducated beliefs but, as I have stated earlier, he has many followers over whom this kind of thinking is so easily widely propagated. Oh I forgot – Filipinos already think like this.

Does Celdran know what he should be prioritizing? It seems that he is a very vain person, concerned only about the aesthetics of Manila. I can totally understand however why he is doing this. Celdran is a Manila tour guide. A rather challenging job to be doing in Manila, if you ask me. I can imagine foreigners going to Manila to try it out and likely coming out of the experience disappointed…

Look: people will say the Filipino people are nice, and indeed they are polite – we Brits might say “smarmy” – obsequious or ingratiating are maybe less pleasant words. But they do try. That does take the edge off the sheer misery of a crumbling, filthy, depressing city and an economy that exists only on the remittances of the smart ones who have left.

Sorry folks. I know there are many people who love the Philippines, but its economic development has been a disaster; the irony is that Manila is the headquarters of the Asian Development Bank (the reason I come here) and it has the WORST growth history of any of the ASEAN countries – Cambodia which was torn apart by civil war up until 1997 has a first-class airport (fresh ham and cheese sandwiches on foccacia, freshly brewed cappuccino , clean lounges) and some great restaurant food and hotels (see my next post). But the Manila, where the intelligentsia sneer at their Asian brothers and sisters for their lack of English, is beaten hands down even by little Phnom Penh and left standing by every other mega-city in the region.

Carlos Celdran is not likely to shy away from insisting that the Philippine economy is outperforming the US economy. Well Celdran, last time I checked most Filipinos, given the chance, would still move to the United States or even the land of your mortal enemy China, because your beloved Philippines cannot provide decent lives for them. Also, I have not heard an American saying I will move to the Philippines for greener pastures. Many, instead, go there looking for prostitutes, a trade which is abundant in the city where you work as a tour guide. Also, your ideas are not only appalling and completely delusional, they border on ethnocentrism — a style of tribal Medieval thinking. You act as if the Philippines has nothing to learn from other cultures such as the Chinese. May I remind you that this attitude is what resulted in the fall of many Islamic nations. They never bothered to listen to European debates on democracy and ingrained within their societies the thought that they do not need to learn from these discussions. Consequently, the Enlightenment and the Scientific Revolution all but passed them by. They are now dealing with the outcome of their insularity that infected their societies a couple odd centuries ago and this is what is bound to happen to the Philippines if we continue to fail at being a bit more practical in the way we think.

No man is an island and the same notion applies to nations. They continuously learn from each other. The United States of America began as a land colonized by Great Britain. India was under the Mongols, Turks, and eventually Great Britain. Great Britain (before it became great) was brutally conquered and ruled by the Norman kings of France. While it may be true that three nations have occupied the Philippines, Filipinos did not learn much from the experience and have continued to practice their culture of mediocrity. China had some time ago started to open its doors to Western ideas. Why would the Philippines think of itself as something so special that they would refuse to be influenced by other ideals and cultures? Carlos Celdran would probably answer that question in his usual the-Philippines-is-the-greatest-nation-ever manner.

I do recognize the futility of this article because Carlos Celdran is old and like they say, there is no use teaching an old dog new tricks. On the other hand there are some Filipinos who can tell right from wrong. Clearly, Carlos is not one of them.

433 Comments

  • Joan says:

    I totally agree with your post Jon Limjap — clearly, this author is either paid by the Powers That Be (Ehem, Lim who also thought nothing wrong about ruining the vantage point of Jose Rizal’s monument) to trash Carlos or is basing her opinions on other people’s opinions — which is downright stupid if you ask me. I can’t believe she actually doesn’t think Torre De Manila would destroy the importance of the Rizal Monument — hello, Rizal is our national hero, his monument is a national monument and cultural/heritage/historic sites like this should be preserved for the good of our Filipino identity. I guess she didn’t even know what Carlos was fighting for because that’s how CLASSLESS AND UNEDUCATED she is.

    • domo says:

      You’re exactly like the yellow army accusing us as paid hacks of GMA and Corona. Pinoy nga naman oo ang hilig magbintang kahit inosente.

  • jomarie says:

    just because i’m in a third world country, i need to forsake the monuments and symbols of my heritage. c’mon. the guys has “balls” and i don’t agree in every ideas he has but i don’t think your article just centers about him, it’s like everything about the country.

  • momblogger says:

    I guess you really don’t know the man. Carlos Celdran is more than what you depict about him in this article. I worked closely with this man. Have you?

  • oh.twisted.al says:

    Stupid people use third World, There’s no third world in anyway. Who made it? lazy people and greedy businessmen or some dude, like the author of this article.

    • Iya-J says:

      I only respond to comments worth responding to so I can save time so if I did not respond it means your comment does not warrant any of my time.

  • GRPFan says:

    This article has no place in this blog. It is poorly written and filled with generalizations usually found in other blogs which GRP bashes.

    She doesn’t belong in this site.

  • youre.so.silly.its.hilarious says:

    RE: Philippine economy, don’t just take Celdran’s word for it. CNN agrees.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/12/world/asia/philippines-surprise-surge/index.html

  • jojo says:

    hahahaha, a celdran hater, and can’t see what’s there to preserve? this article sounds like somebody has paid a few pesos to discredit someone. unprofessional, baseless, unresearched, utterly tasteless,uninformational, I can go on and on but like the celdran I have tons of little things to do to make this world a better place. No time for a few cents to write useless blog.

  • el gritton says:

    mga conyo,,,,malamang hindi taga Manila ang nag Blog, kung Manilenyo man malamang hindi pinapalabas ng mga magulang nya baka maalikabukan at baka hikain,,, I was born and raised in Manila, and unlike the blogger, who was probably born with a silver spoon up her ass, I am lucky to have an opportunity to know Mr. Celdran in one of a Civic action to help people like that picture you posted,,, kung diring diri ka sa Manila, diyan ka na tumira sa Paris. Dont ever compare French with Pinoys, they choke during WWII, they have a high drug addiction case, and high human trafficking incident. Who cares if they are a “First Class Country”, they can keep it. Im a proud Pinoy, proud Manilenyo

  • Whyyesthankyou says:

    Pot, meet kettle.

  • Paul says:

    If you take life too seriously, you will never get out alive. Kudos to Celdran for keeping the faith and his beliefs intact.

  • E says:

    This article is stupid for many things:

    1. Just because Manila is a dump, should we just do nothing if it drowns a little bit more with a defacing of a national monument?

    2. Just because Carlos Celdran is a little bit famous, can’t he have an opinion?

    3. “no one in their right mind really wants to undergo the Manila experience” – You are right, but for an entirely different reason. Why would any foreigner want a Manila experience? They want to see tall buildings, dirty rivers? They’d rather tour their own city if that’s the case. NO! They come here for the beaches and festivals and for those other places that are totally opposite the urban jungle in which they live in.

    Your Manila might be a dump but my beaches in Bohol and Cebu are still pristine. And that is what foreigners are coming in for.

    4. Just because Paris is Paris and Manila is a dump, can’t we dream that Manila would be as beautiful someday, and START that dream NOW by NOT defacing a national monument?

    5. Getting publicity by lambasting a famous (or a wee bit famous) personality is a tabloid technique you know.

    6. No American moving to the Philippines for greener pastures? Have you been living under a rock? When was the last time you left your laptop and went out? I am surrounded by Americans who are here for greener pastures or a chance to get filthy rich.

    7. If you accuse somebody of lacking class, please do it with class. This article felt like it was written by a 14 yr old girl who fantasizes about Edward Cullen too much.

    8. Oh, I get it, your a pro-lifer.

    9. Or a paid shill of that condo?

    And lastly, can I have my 10 minutes back?

    • Yoav says:

      She’s neither a pro-lifer nor a paid shill of that condo. And btw, this “14 yr old girl who fantasizes about Edwarld Cullen too much” earns more than all of her haters combined. She works hard to support herself so she totally doesn’t need admirers. And at least admit that foreigners go to your shitty country to have sex with the gold-digging locals! I hope the Philippines gets nuked by China.

    • Iya-J says:

      I will only reply to some of the points that you have raised because most of them do not even deserve a reply given its lack of substance.

      1. Just because Manila is a dump, should we just do nothing if it drowns a little bit more with a defacing of a national monument?

      My Reply: Manila is a dump because people do not have discipline when it comes to throwing garbage. I am not suggesting we keep it looking like a dump but what I am trying to say here is that why would you be so concerned about the looks of it and not the substance. It is in the same way that you have judged my article calling it stupid because I set a tone that you are not accustomed to. You only look on the outside, not so much on the inside. Why, if that condo will bring more jobs and CREATE MORE SPACE in the city of Manila
      known to be as one of the most populous cities in the world (not sure If it is 5th), then why not let it happen?

      2. No American moving to the Philippines for greener pastures? Have you been living under a rock? When was the last time you left your laptop and went out? I am surrounded by Americans who are here for greener pastures or a chance to get filthy rich.

      My Reply: Fortunately, I do not live in the Philippines and can make a huge comparison between the expats coming to the Philippines and Millions of Filipinos living in the States. I live in San Francisco, California and I have not heard, not even once, that an American wants to move there for greener pastures. What I have encountered though are the many FILIPINOS here that left the Philippines to have a better chance at life – that, your country cannot provide. So If I were to estimate, by ratio, the amount of Americans coming to the Philippines for business vs the number of Filipinos your argument here will be invalid and would be further ridiculed.

      3. If you accuse somebody of lacking class, please do it with class. This article felt like it was written by a 14 yr old girl who fantasizes about Edward Cullen too much.

      How funny. I have already proven myself to society, I doubt the same is with you. You probably still live with your parents, and eating food they have spent money on.

      And if your 10 minutes really is that valuable, you wouldn’t have to write a response. Gotcha!

      • Jetlag807 says:

        “What I have encountered though are the many FILIPINOS here…”

        Living in San Francisco and ONLY referring to the “FILIPINOS” you have met, does NOT constitute a Control Group, which is needed when making any such statements. Yes, Filipinos are leaving the Philippines but, at the same time (non-Filipino) Americans are coming TO the Philippines. Since you do not live in the Philippines, it is not surprising that you are completely unaware of the real deal here. I meet American retirees here all the time. Some new comers, some have been here for years. As I mentioned in my initial post; it may help broaden your mind if you stop by your local VFW Post (in SFO or the Bay Area at large) and either listen or ask the Vets therein what are they’re thoughts on the Philippines as a retirement destination.

        I find it troubling that you can write an article with such obvious controversy and yet respond to same with such childish antics. If you plan to be a writer, get used to the fact that you will always have critics. The best way to avoid or defeat criticism is to back up your statements with FACTS.

  • Freddy says:

    I think we all lost our class and intelligence not to mention time when we succumbed to reading this blog. I wonder who the writer hates more, the Philippines or Carlos?

    • Yoav says:

      Of course she/we hate(s) your shitty country and that stupid tour guide. I hope it gets nuked by China.

      • gaile says:

        wow, seems like some one duped you. maybe a filipino smart enough to recognize the beast inside your english speaking self. bitter

  • Leo says:

    The writer of this blog must also write for the Daily Tribune and the Manila Standard whose writers continue to lambast the Philippines and the its government no matter what good they do. They turn even good news into bad ones. Wish we could ship all these writers on a one way trip to Nazi China.

    • Daido Katsumi says:

      At least Daily Tribune and Manila Standard are far more better sources than Inquirer and even ABS-CBN. Get my drift?

      Stupid Yellow Nazi prick. :P You’re deluding yourself.

    • Yoav says:

      Actually, she doesn’t need a trip to China. She has left Nazi Philippines a loooong time ago.

  • Ivan says:

    I hate Beltran as much as you do but this article is just utter shit. Your use of tired devices like “The last time I checked” totally destroys your credibility. “No man is an island” seriously?

    What are you? 12?

  • Pinoygoodvibes says:

    This author is a dumb fuck. You need to get laid and be happy! I bet you have a crush on Carlos thats why! Such a pessismt. We don’t need people like you!

    • Yoav says:

      Hey, she has a handsome boyfriend. She doesn’t need that faggot idol of yours.

    • Daido Katsumi says:

      So ano ang gusto mo, ‘Think Positive’ parati? Hay nako. Kung ayaw mo matuto e magsawa ka na lang sa kondisyon ng bansa natin.

  • David Garcia says:

    I would like to comment on the issue on how the writer handles evidence and argu ments. In my opinion, she has to learn more about the Philippines, more about religion, more about activism, more about racism. Maybe, she is basing much of her arguments on a very limited set of experiences, like some scientists today who say that all humans are like x and y just because of the behavior of a sample group with a size of 30.

    “There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.”
    Mark Twain.

  • Honey says:

    This article is RIDICULOUS, written by a complete fool and hypocrite.
    What a classic example of Filipino self-loathing!!! So wait – first you lambaste CC for opposing construction in Manila because he DARES to think thst the city is worth preserving?! How could he?! What right does he have?! Where is his sense of national pride?! Oh. Wait. Right.
    Then you go off on a tangent about how awful and pathetic and dirty and poor Manila really is… wait. What IS your point? Are you really taking this man to task because he doesn’t want to bow to the pressures of conforming to the powers-that-be? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU???

    • Yoav says:

      You’re also a classic example of a delusional Filipino who thinks that Nazi Philippines is at the center of the universe. Seriously, in my country, “Filipinit” is a slang term for maid.

    • Iya-J says:

      Balat SIbuyas comment detected.

  • thewayofjay says:

    The sad part is that we Filipinos seem to be so touchy with our egos. “Hey! Hey! What did you say about me and what I believe in?” “No, you’re wrong! This is how it is. This is how it should be.” Seriously, everyone. Sounds like the RH bill debate a little bit. It seems everyone who’s posted or commented is articulate, well-informed and intelligent. You’re all better than this. Stop hating on one another just because your individual (or our collective ego as a community) was hurt. Spread what you love, rather than bash what you hate. The article made several legitimate points. It also made several legitimate points of contention. Argue yes, but attack each other over this? Seriously. You’re trolling yourselves over it. If you’re a Filipino and you love the Philippines, then love it for what it is, isn’t and what it can become. Got it?

    • K3 says:

      Sorry bro, but if you look at the lot of Filipino forums, including news sites such as news yahoo ph, the arguments quickly degenerate to name calling, branding (GMALover, yellow zombie, etc.), and other things that make the lot of us look immature, unable to comprehend, and ultimately stupid.

      I’m beginning to think most Filipinos are narrow-minded, have no sense of empathy and understanding, and cannot imagine themselves in another’s shoes.

  • Geewhiz says:

    The claim of Celdran being a bad influence is reasonable enough, lots of people don’t like him and have their reasons. But it quickly turns into a hate fest of all things Pinoy, sadly making it seem that those who don’t like Celdran actually think the way the writer does about the Philippines and Filipinos. I doubt DMCI is behind this article, since they would probably write it better. More like, it was strategically written to spark a comment war, so the site can claim ‘millions of hits’ in a day to their advertisers.

  • Maria says:

    Philippines is still the Asia’s Third World Slum but that doesn’t mean that we should stop protecting it from anything that might ruin it. Manila maybe a dump at some point, but it’s being recycled now. And also, the Manila experience is for someone who’s brave enough to face anything just to see its hidden beauty, someone who would like to see it as how Mr. Celdran does, so if you’re not up for it, that’s for you to decide. Just please research, reflect and write a more acceptable criticism for us instead of bashing an old man.

    • Yoav says:

      Yes, it is a shitty third world slum and it will remain as it is forever. You Filipinos are so narrow-minded and onion-skinned to take a leap forward.

      • gaile says:

        racist- so much generalizations. wow dude, you sure are an avid fan of this writer.. it’s ok to provide constructive criticisms but this article exudes pure hate.. Racism is plastered all over what this author has written.

        • Daido Katsumi says:

          Pointing out mistakes, flaws, and providing solutions to correct them can be considered as ‘racism’. You’re EMO is showing full force here.

          Typical Da Pinoy mentality.

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