They say it is easy to judge a person’s character by the way he treats animals, kids, the elderly and the sick. It’s not hard to agree with that statement since animals, kids, the elderly and sick people are the more vulnerable and weaker among us. In the same manner, it is easy to judge Philippine President Benigno Simeon “BS†Aquino by the way he treats his political enemies particularly former President and Pampanga Congresswoman, Gloria Macapagal Arroyo (GMA).
Not only is GMA at a fragile age, she is not in the best of health — which means she is in a very delicate and vulnerable condition at the moment. A close friend of the former President claims that she is in deep pain and cannot eat properly. A report published in May states the following:
Also on Friday, Occidental Mindoro Rep. Ma. Amelita Villarosa, a political ally and close friend of Arroyo, confirmed the Inquirer report, saying the former President and now Pampanga Representative was facing a “life and death†situation.
Villarosa, who visited Arroyo at Makati Medical Center on Thursday, said she saw how Arroyo was in “deep pain.â€
“She needs medical treatment. She cannot eat because there is a metal blocking her food. She can speak but with great difficulty,†she said.
“It’s a matter of life and death. When any part of your body is feeling pain, your heart will be under heavy pressure,†she said. .
And
A source close to Arroyo told the Inquirer the other day that the results of the examination showed that the choking sensations she had been experiencing was caused by the titanium implant—which had been placed in her body during surgery for a cervical spine ailment in 2011—protruding into her esophagus.
It is interesting to note that the doctors at the Veterans Memorial Medical Center (VMMC) where she has been detained since December 2011 pending her trial for the non-bailable charge of electoral sabotage refused to issue a statement about her condition. It seems, they are being careful about confirming or denying the gravity of GMA’s condition. It’s as if they are under strict orders from Malacañang not to say anything that would result in her gaining public sympathy. But the fact that the doctors at VMMC cannot outrightly deny the claim that she cannot eat and is only on a liquid diet due to her condition possibly proves that it could be true.
Alarmingly, even in the absence of statements by medical experts, PNoy is adamant that GMA’s condition is nothing to worry about. He even thinks that GMA is just pretending to be sick. Referring to her illness, this is what he had to say:
“Now, they are again saying the same. What’s the difference between their claims before and their claims now?†Mr. Aquino said in an interview after addressing rural development stakeholders in Mindanao.
It is not an exaggeration therefore when people say that PNoy does not have compassion. Judging by the way he has been treating GMA for the last several months while she is ill, one can be forgiven for thinking that PNoy’s set of values does not include showing kindness or benevolence even to a fellow human being – something that an openly religious person like him should be doing. Maybe he was absent when his Catholic school taught the lesson on empathy. It seems PNoy is suffering from tunnel vision and can only focus on pursuing his vendetta for the Supreme Court’s decision to distribute his family’s Hacienda Luisita, a move that was set in motion by GMA during her term.
You would think that since PNoy’s own mother, former President Cory Aquino suffered a terminal illness, he would exercise more compassion, but no. He appears to be more vindictive towards sick people now. Perhaps it could be because his mother passed away still reeling from anger towards GMA. It was said that it was Cory’s wishes not to have a state funeral just to spite GMA.
Reading about what GMA is going through brings to mind my own mother. A few weeks ago, she was hospitalized when she suffered a condition called Achalasia. It is a disorder of the esophagus – the tube that carries food from the mouth to the stomach. The tightened muscle in her esophagus affected its ability to move food toward her stomach. She too could not eat because of the gagging feeling she gets when she attempts to put food in her mouth. And because she could not eat, her overall health and wellbeing was getting worse by the day.
Because of her frail condition, everyone in the family agreed that only the best doctors should treat her. Her specialist doctor had to conduct a procedure called dilation that expanded the tightened muscle in her esophagus so she could swallow without vomiting. The doctors spoke of the risk of it collapsing but thank goodness it all went well. My mother’s ordeal only lasted a few weeks. But I can just imagine her condition would have gotten worse had we delayed the procedure similar to how long GMA has been suffering. It would have been torture. But perhaps torturing GMA is what PNoy really has in mind.
Surprisingly, quite a number of the Senators who convicted GMA ally, former Supreme Court Chief Justice Renato Corona, are calling on PNoy to show compassion. Senators Jinggoy Estrada, Pia Cayetano, Vicente Sotto III, Gregorio Honasan, Aquilino “Koko†Pimentel III and Francis “Chiz†Escudero echoed the sentiments of Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile:
Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile on Thursday warned the Aquino government against mistreating former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, noting that she has not yet been convicted in the electoral sabotage case filed against her.
“No matter how bad they think about her, she is presumed innocent until she is really convicted,†Enrile said in an interview with dwIZ radio.
Placing Arroyo in the company of common criminals would not sit well with the international community, considering that she is a former president, he said.
“What if she dies in jail? How would it look like to the rest of the world when you put a former president in jail together with (common criminals)?†he said
Enrile also reminded everyone that even former President Marcos allowed PNoy’s father to seek medical treatment abroad saying “the martyred opposition leader Benigno Aquino Jr., the father of President Aquino, had been allowed to seek medical treatment abroad despite being convicted by a military court during the Marcos regime.â€
Indeed, mistreating a former head of state would not look good to the rest of the world. PNoy should learn a thing or two from people in sophisticated societies about how to handle compassion. Even former Libyan intelligence officer, Abdel Baset al-Megrahi who was responsible for the death of 270 innocent people was released by Scotland in 2009. He was convicted for his role in blowing up Pan Am Flight 103 on Dec. 21, 1988, over Lockerbie, Scotland but was released in 2009 “on compassionate grounds to let him return home to die after he was diagnosed with terminal cancer.†His release caused uproar from some of the relatives of his victims but the Scottish Justice Secretary said that he decided to release the convicted terrorist because his Scottish values dictated to show mercy even though al-Megrahi had not shown compassion to his victims.
If a convicted criminal can be given leniency, what more GMA who hasn’t been convicted and whose case is considered by many to be too weak to prosper in a rational court considering the charges of electoral sabotage are based on Norrie Unas’s hearsay testimony. Unas also happens to be directly involved in the Maguindanao massacre in which 59 people were murdered. As such he wants to turn state witness by testifying against Arroyo.
The case against GMA might even end up being dismissed in a way similar to how Ombudsman Conchita Carpio-Morales dismissed the bribery charge against GMA during the 2004 Presidential Elections for insufficiency of evidence. Now it can be said that that the bribery allegations against GMA in 2004 are not true.
Yes, you can definitely judge a person by the way he treats animals, kids, the elderly and the sick. Frankly, some people even treat their animals better than the way PNoy treats former President GMA.






Question: How can a retard show mercy/empathy to animals, kids or sick person? The way I observed them pains of others give them joy/happiness =(
Not retarded; sociopathic. At least according to the psychology text I have.
There’s also the matter of schadenfreude.
Vengeance!!! A pound of flesh… and then some.
( Eh hindi pa kasi lumuluhod at himihingi ng patawad sa bagong-Caesar, eh. Hail, Caesar!!!! )
This is the same guy who was laughing and smiling at the hostages who died during the bus crisis, he’ll smile and laugh even harder if GMA dies.
I thought that the former Police Chief was found corrupt in his treatment of the Inspector and was fired, he may have been consulted on this guy and gave a bad review to the President, I do agree it was a serious botched scene I watched it live and could not believe just how bad things got with little or no empathy for the tourists.
OK,this is a no-brainer.The Lady has a spine problem,it is not life threatening.I repeat,NOT LIFE THREATENING.The pain she is in is significant yes, but it is not life threatening unless she can not stand the pain.A geographic location will not change that.There are medications that are readily available:Oxycontin tablets and if necessary Morphine Sulfate tablets and even Morphine intra muscular/venous injections are readily available as well.A trip to a specialist in another country is not going to take the pain away any better than a pill/injection administered where the Lady is RIGHT NOW,as a matter of fact travel will exacerbate her pain and maybe make it so she can not travel back ‘on the advice of her doctors’,wouldn’t that be planned/ironic?
The empathy being afforded the Lady right now is a lot more than most other people would get if they were not a member of a political dynasty,a lot more.The fact that the Lady is not in JAIL cell is about all that should be afforded her,as the charges are non-bailable and more serious charges are about to be levelled as well.
If justice is to be served equally to all filipino’s then the Lady should face the charges against her,regardless of the ‘pain’ in her neck,and if guilty..send her to jail.The Philippines treasury was plundered by a few people who should definitely face the charges,regardless of ‘pain’.
A very vindictive and malicious post, ladies and gentlemen.
I agree that she should face the charges. But they have to do it RIGHT NOW. You can’t deliver justice with INCOMPETENCE.
Are you an orthopedist? And if you are, have you examined the former president or studied her medical record to be able to offer such an unequivocal diagnosis?
I’m guessing not.
Right on Joe!
Yes Ilda, i treat my dogs better than Pnoy is treating GMA.
and Ilda you can not say she was not guilty of the charges for 2004,you can say the evidence was insufficient.They are two different things.Also,
The lockerbie bomber was dying,GMA is not.It is not Pnoys fault the offenses are non-bailable.Oh yeah great,let her out and show the rest of the world that the Philippines does not enforce its laws.
Aquino Sr. needed heart surgery,not a pain killer.That operation GMA had should not have been performed on a 65 yr. old.All the medical specialists in the world are not going to remedy the situation.GMA knew the risks and was walking around and traveling abroad right before she had the operation(s).If it weren’t for the operations she would certainly be in jail.She is lucky to be where she is, instead of a jail cell.
Enough of these politicians getting sick and avoiding the consequences.’High-Blood’ said the Lady married to the General,so she did not have to testify in front of congress,WHAT?
I do not feel good is no reason to get out of jail.You are not supposed to feel good about it,’cause it sucks being there.You are supposed to realize that before you do what you do so as to avoid going there.
Sorry, but in fact, you’re a total TROLL. Only mindless mobsters like you would think such a thing. If you know what I mean.
The ‘guilty until proven innocent’ minset reveals that we are a failed society after all. So sad. But if you say that politicians should never run away and face the charges and allegations despite of their condition, I wanna say this: all of taxpayer’s money will be spent on the medical treatment for those people.
The lockerbee bomber is not a former highest official of the Philippines and GMA was. The lockerbee was indicted and was found guilty as charged. He could die while languishing in jail and it will not change the fact that he was guilty as charged.
What kind of analogy does this Joe has? An analogy that is devoid of logic I’m sure.
Something that will always suit with the narrative he wants?
I did not use an analogy.I scrutinized the OP’s analogy and find it lacking in merit,for the reasons I stated.
This guy seems incapable of feeling because he is so consumed by hatred. He smirks, he snarks, he projects yabang and is rude. He appears too cold-hearted, unfeeling. Perhaps that’s why he has no true relationship (except for his family, wala naman kasi sila choice) and women scamper away after seeing what he truly is.
Sadly, this is all this balding ass face can do. By continuing to use Former President GMA as a scapegoat for his screw-ups, he has shown his true colors of being an insensitive and incompetent jerkass.
i would 100% agree with you mommyjo,, there is really big problem with this guy in malacanang,, only his family loves him and his sipsip friends. a big question on why he reached the golden age and still a bachelor,, my conclusion: he is such a big problem and our country will be facing more problems with this kind of leader
how can we sure those sipsip friends do love him? arent they only using him like common leeches? he is now being misused for his anger and thirst for revenge. Lets wait and see what will happen in the next few months for something is brewing and definitely not coffee.
I have my own personal idea why that is.
http://cornholiogogs.multiply.com/journal/item/1241
In times like this Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo should be freed since she obtained uncured sickness while everybody don’t know that she erred for using funds from the requisition of Spiritual Wonder Boy; she’s one of the proven witness of all who dared to touch the divine wealth without prior consultation will suffer immediate death or long term illness.
What does that even mean? I’ve read it four times, and I still can’t convince myself that you didn’t use the Random Paragraph Generator to make that comment.
N/A should be reminded of the outrage directed at the Ukraine for mistreating the (actually convicted) former Prime Minister Tymoshenko.
He is getting closer and closer to fatally stepping on his own wang, as recklessly as he is conducting himself.
I am sorry for Gloria too, but the sins that she has done had made us not to forgive her:
The Complete List of
Madame President’s (and
the First Family’s)
Achievements – Unconstitutional “State of Rebellion†during Edsa 3 – Political asylum proposal for Estrada – Hospital and house arrest to Erap and Jinggoy – P50-million bribe to FG for the president’s veto of two
franchise bills – $5 million PCSO funds to finance the campaign of
People Power Coalition senate
ticket – $4 million kickback from the $470-million contract to
Argentine firm IMPSA – Defending Justice Sec Nani Perez from accusations of receiving kickbacks from
IMPSA – Retention of Angelo Reyes as Sec. despite allegations of
corruption in the defense dept – Overpriced Diosdado Macapagal Boulevard – Retention of Winston Garcia as pres of GSIS despite accusations of
mismanagement of GSIS funds – Overpriced construction of NAIA Terminal 3 – P9.5 billion contract for rice importation given to a Malacanang ally. Rice imported
were found to be rotten and
moldy – Undeclared San Francisco properties in her Statements of Assets Liabilities and Net
Worth – Mikey Arroyo’s importation
of 32 thoroughbred horses from Australia worth P384 million. – P321 million in campaign
funds and contributions in the Jose Pidal bank account – Defense Dept selling arms and ammunitions to
guerilla and bandit groups – Impeachment of SC Chief Justice Hilario Davide – Close ties to Pampanga gambling lords Bong and
Lilia Pineda – Compromise deals with the Marcoses – Heavy support for the US war on Iraq and sending our troops into harm’s way – Invitation to warmonger US Pres. Bush to visit the Philippines – Suspension from office of staunch political enemies like
Mayor Binay – Recall election against duly elected political enemies like
Ed Panlilio – Approval of contractors for Northrail project despite the absence of public bidding – EO 464; requiring Cabinet members to seek presidential
clearance before testifying in
Congress hearings – Promise (on Rizal Day) to not run for the presidency
in 2004 – “Vote Buying†by giving
away Philhealth cards – Taxpayers’ money for her giant billboards and and PCSO tv campaign ads[/b] – Appointment of Ben Abalos , a staunch GMA ally, as COMELEC chair – Disqualification case against
biggest election opponent, Fernando Poe Jr – Bribery of pro-FPJ groups to switch alliances – Govt purchase of debt-ridden
Lopez-owned MWSS in exchange for ABS-CBN’s
support of GMA’s candidacy – Deals with Iglesia ni Cristo for the church’s endorsement – Widespread cheating and
anomalies in the 2004 election – Blocking by arroyo’s allies of
all objections against
questionable Certificates of Canvass during the national canvassing – “Hello Garci†; demanding a one million vote lead against
FPJ – Admission of “lapse of judgment†for talking to a COMELEC commissioner – Refusal to quit despite
massive call for resignation
and the quitting of key
cabinet members (Hyatt 10) – Endorsement of the weak Lozano impeachment case by Malacanang’s congessmen
allies – Proposal of charter change to divert focus from Hello
Garci controversy – Proclamation 1017 ; Unconstitutional “State of
Emergency†during EDSA 20th
Anniversary; Threats to media
orgs which are critical of the
admin – Monthly payoffs to FG,
Mikey and Iggy Arroyo to
protect Jueteng – Fertilzer Funds for her 2004 campaign and govt’s
inaction to arrest Agri Dept
head Jocjoc Bolante – “Permit to Rally†for protesters – Calibrated Pre-emptive Response (CPR) Policy against all protesters – Fake “self-exile†of FG – Ratification of JPEPA treaty ; making Phil. the “trash can†of Japan – Extension of the useless Visiting Forces Agreement – Insistence on ineffective natural family planning and abandoning artificial
family planning programs – Threat of vetoing the Reproductive Health Bill – Pardon of controversial
convicted criminals like Ninoy’s murderers – Questionable SC associate justice appointments – Appointment of shameless
lapdog, Merceditas Gutierrez,
as Ombudsman – Swine scam ; fund for the Swine program were diverted
to Arroyo’s 2004 campaign
fund – Denial of pork barrel funds to Malacanang’s political
enemies – Insistence on charter change
to shift to unicameral legislature and delay the 2010 election – Fraudulent and incredible signature campaign for charter change – Libel charges against editors
of anti-govt newspaper Daily Tribune – Libel charges of FG against detractors like Bishop Oscar
Cruz and journalists – Cash hand outs to congressmen and other allies
to quash another
impeachment (as exposed by
Ed Panilio) – Inaction on the extra judicial killings of
militants and members of left leaning groups – Praises for Jovito Palparan , alleged mastermind of extra judicial killings of
militants – Lack of response to the
unjustified killings of journalists – Subversion of the party-list
system with Malacanang- backed party-list groups – Political dynasty in the congress (4 Arroyo
congressmen) – A total of 2.8 billion pesos
for all of GMA’s foreign trips – Pardon of convicted plunderer Joseph Estrada – Overpriced NBN ZTE Broadband Deal and kickbacks for the first family – Kidnapping of NBN ZTE
scandal witness Jun Lozada – Removal of JDV , father of NBN ZTE scandal
whistleblower Joey De
Venecia, as House Speaker – Mikey Arroyo’s undeclared properties in California – One million peso dinner in a fine dining restaurant in
New York City – National Artist recognition
to a clown, Carlo J. Caparas – Removal of govt
bodyguards for former pres
and Arroyo critic, Cory Aquino – Gov’t special treatment to Ampatuans , close allies of the Arroyos – Gov’t arms and ammunitions
to the Ampatuans’ private armies – Unconstitutional “Martial Law†in Maguindanao – Defense Dept’s acquittal of
two accused Ampatuans – Excessive gov’t spending for
GMA’s hometown Lubao, Pampanga – “Villarroyo†; Secretly helping and financing Manny
Villar’s campaign – Appointment of manicurist as a member of the board of
Pag-Ibig – Appointment of gardener as deputy of the Luneta Park
Administration. – Midnight appointment of an
Arroyo lapdog, Renato Corona, as SC Chief Justice – 200+ other illegal midnight appointments – Absence of all Arroyo
congressmen during the
voting for the Freedom of Information Bill – Expensive and excessive print and TV ads about GMA’s “achievements†(paid
using taxpayers’ money) – “Release†of “Koala Bear†as a plan to destroy the
legitimacy of the election
winners – Use of Independence Day celebration to highlight fake achievements – record high unemployment rate – record high debt and govt borrowing – record high budget deficit – 4.3% GDP growth for nine years (lower than the 4.7% GDP growth of the 2.5 years
of the Estrada admin) – 7.3% 1st quarter 2010 GDP
growth which is low compared to other Asian
countries’ GDP growth – decreasing purchasing power of the peso – record high inflation – record high incidence of hunger – record high poverty rate – widening gab between the rich and the poor – failure to lower the
skyrocketing prices of fuel, electricity and water – The Philippines being one of the most corrupt nations in the world.
TL;DR
cant handle the sinr of your master?
*Can’t
*sins
*mistress
Kris , its been two months. You have not found another red herring/ decoy for your ate, I mean kuya??
@FishCRAP
Your list of GMA’s “sins” is full of FAIL like YOU!
Go get yourself a REAL JOB, you stupid bum.
I feel like some of these were made up.
What do you expect aaaaa ? Kris wants attention as usual.
This only proves one thing about Kris and that she is an attention WHORE.
Why qualify it as attention whore? Kris Aquino is a whore, plain and simple.
And Fishball, you birdbrain, I bet if we cross out the hearsay and debunked charges there will be NOTHING left on that list of yours.
Boo f**kin hoo fishCRAP.
You are just a whinny emo that can’t accept the fact that your president is a LOSER like YOU. Your president has acomplished NOTHING in the past 2 years.
The people are getting tired of your president’s incompetence. Your president’s days are numbered.
Ummm… that’s a contradiction. Most of them are just fabricated and based on hearsays. I’m sure you get this from the media and that’s it.
Noynoy has more sins than GMA had so far. Pointing out that he belonged to an oligarch family.
Fishball,
“Widespread cheating and
anomalies in the 2004 election – Blocking by arroyo’s allies of
all objections against
questionable Certificates of Canvass during the national canvassing – “Hello Garciâ€
Teka, wasn’t PNoy involved in this fiasco as well? Just sayin’.
Yes, Brianitus. It’s all right here:
The unprincipled gall of Noynoy Aquino
Some excerpts:
“Noynoy’s little-spoken but nonetheless criminal deeds against the people did not end with the 2001 EDSA coup. During the 2004 elections, Noynoy allowed, or perhaps helped facilitate the electoral cheating committed against Fernando Poe Jr. in the conspiracy to fraudulently declare Arroyo as the winner of the presidential race. Noynoy as Tarlac congressman did nothing as stalwarts of his Liberal Party and others railroaded the congressional canvassing by refusing to open the contested COCs (certificates of canvass). As Daily Tribune’s Ninez Cacho-Olivares notes, Noynoy Aquino “kept his mouth shut even in the face of massive electoral cheating,†thus effectively preventing the Filipino public from knowing the real 2004 President-elect.
…
The only time Filipinos got to know that Fernando Poe Jr. (FPJ) really won in the 2004 polls was when the Hello Garci wiretapped tapes came out, which primarily showed that Arroyo engaged in conversations with elections commissioner Virgilio Garcillano in connection with operations surrounding the May 11, 2004 polls. However, even when the Aquinos already learned about the tapes, Noynoy did not immediately withdraw support from the Illegitimate “President.†In fact, he even voted AGAINST the airing of the tapes during the fifth Congressional hearing on the “Hello Garci†issue on June 30, 2005, the first anniversary of the surreptitious wee-hour-of-the-morning congressional proclamation of Arroyo as “President-elect.â€
…
Noynoy even praised Arroyo’s televised July 2, 2005 I am sorry†speech, claiming it’s a “good start†for the controversial administration. Cory, for her part, even warned against resorting to extra-constitutional means to remove Arroyo, even as they themselves had four years earlier ousted Estrada and installed the Illegitimate in her place.
…
The sequence of events that his defense implies also constitutes falsehood: Noynoy Aquino actually withdrew support for Gloria only in July 8, 2005–six days AFTER he voted against the airing of the Hello Garci tapes. (As to why the Aquinos ultimately dropped Arroyo, GMA-7′s Stephanie Dychiu seems to point to the not-exactly favorable report of Task Force Luisita that came out that same month).â€
and even the killing of jose rizal,, you’ve mentioned all her shortcomings and misdeeds,, how about the accomplishments she has done
That is insane yellow troll logic for you. They always find a way to insert impossible things to blame on PGma even though Fishcrap’s list is full of shit like him.
It won’t. Selective negativity and all that.
@Fishball
I almost believed in your list until I realised that even the ombudsman is having a hard time filing a case against her due to “insufficient evidence”. Not to mention the lack of witnesses. Why don’t you volunteer as a witness? You give me the impression you know about these allegations first hand. If not, obviously they are merely “hearsays” or in Tagalog “tsismis”.
weak evidences and missing witnesses
Fishball, like Persinoynoy and Lacierda… would respond —- who needs facts when you know the truth!!!!
History is being rewritten by the one speaks for majority of Pilipinas because he won who won with 54% of the votes from 2010 elections!!! Hail, CAESAR!!!!
And a question is still being ignored by PersiDente noynoy — Who Was Mastermind of Ninoy Aquino Assasination.
obviously from the archives of pdi, philstar and abias-cbn.
don’t worry, two years pa lang and malapit na matapatan yung “achievements” na ito ni BS C. Aquino.
these atrocities are ok with them because you have to understand that grp fans are happy with corruption/plunder as long as they consider someone competent. i dont see how gloria can be viewed as competent though. what i remember most are
1. strong republic nautical highway
2. journalists and students murdered
You’re just like your precious pwesident you dumb flip. Everyone is corrupt even YOU. You morons are already suffering from corruption mentality. So you are still thinking that this country will be free without corruption at all? What are you a perfectionist? Do me a favor moron: if you want a perfect world, go make your own planet with just you and the rest of your kind.
you are satisfied with corruption. i believe we should fight it. lets just agree to disagree. have a nice life.
@jaks: You’re completely missing domo’s point. There will ALWAYS be corruption. The only way to deal on it is not to fight it but to CONTROL it. The difference is the progress and how the government met its year-to-year goals.
Honestly, troll. You never realized that the problem is the SYSTEM and not the people around it. Oh yeah, are you satisfied with MEDIOCRITY? Have a nice life because this country would never move forward if people like you exist. Don’t mess with the critical thinking, enlightened Filipinos.
Proof that you have no brains at all and acting like a street boy who sniffs too much rugby. Or you’re just a katoliban who wants a perfect world. I too don’t want corruption. But I’m not like you who is like a blood thirsty murderer that kills any corrupt person only to make yourself feel better. Now look who’s corrupt.
there will always be murder and rape, lets not fight it just control hehehe so the country can move forward. very enlightened daido
finally weve identified the problem is the “system” hehehe not very helpful daido what exactly do you mean by system so we can solve the national condition be specific idiot
@jaks: Umm… what you’re pointing out is a small deal. Rape and murder are crimes yet you’re making it a bigger deal. It’s more like a TRIVIAL matter. All I know is that the Philippines grew worse after Marcos and it’s not right to blame one person (GMA). Just accept the fact that you’ve just blinded by what the media says to you.
Corruption and rampant crime is not the source of the problem but more on the dysfunctional culture. It’s the SYSTEM and not the people around.
Be specific, idiot.
kindly elaborate on this dysfunctional culture and “system” daido? its your last chance the noose is tightening.
sticking to your fanboyism you have now arrived at “corruption and crime are trivial” and “worse since marcos”. ask the torture and kidnapping victims if we are worse hehehehe. from the pan to the fire daido
@jaks: Of course. Dysfunctional culture are those who prefer stupidity, mediocrity, etc. Oh yeah, inability in implement laws should be blamed on our culture of impunity which it was imminent after Marcos left. “The Philippines has a soft, forgiving culture.” quote is a proof of that.
How can I ask those torture and kidnapping victims if they were caught up by their emoness and if every factfinding committee is biased LOL. Nice logic you got there. Panning the fire can leaad your comments being deleted since you’re now resorting to trolling.
Utak-squatter ka kasi.
the martial law’s torture victims are emo? wtf
You clearly missing the point. Corruption is more than just stealing money, etc. Its definition is like this: it was the inability or refusal to do what’s right. Corruption is not just the government but also the people.
And if you think that PNoy’s bigger pork barrel, his blatant defiance of the rule of law, bribery and even allowing innocents killed (Manila Bus Hostage Crisis) are ok with you then thanks because you showed to us that you are a total idiot after all.
And I disagree on your No. 2 because the murder of journalists and students were mostly based on hearsays and other kinds of conspiracy theories and blaming the past administration for this is total stupidity because the fact is they even exist before GMA came. Source for the record or it was all hearsay, idiot.
So what you’re looking on is a small deal. There are people who prefers corrupt officials w/ more achievements than people who are supposedly ‘clean’ yet they do nothing at all. With that kind of mentality, no wonder why we are considered a basketcase.
1. that is your own definition that i do not subscribe to
2. i can praise and criticize gma and pnoy both. i am a fanboy of neither. you are a gma defender. im equal opportunity you’re a fundamentalist
3. i disagree that the maguindanao massacre was hearsay and a “small deal”
1. Hey, I’m anti-stupidity and anti-mediocrity. I just want to say that the fact that people blamed GMA is because the media highlighted her faults and made her supposedly anti-masa. Does that make sense?
2. Then I waas very right: you’re just TROLLING here. The point of the Maguindanao Massacre is how ‘datuism’ can be bad. The Ampatuans are the masterminds but bringing GMA is pure insanity so it’s still hearsay if you don’t have sufficient evidence. Will you believe to a psychopath named Harry Roque? Oh please.
I must tell you that these kind of massacres have existed before GMA, implying that even sensationalized news being important information can be bad for us. And the Ampatuans exists before GMA and no one checked on them, not even Mindanao. Period.
1. i see. i guess your idea of being anti-stupid and anti-mediocre is to be a gma cheerleader.
2. how is the death of 50 people a small deal? to deny that the ampatuans are arroyo’s pitbulls is to put on blinders. they even ensured that gma’s opponents got zero votes in maguindanao. i guess thats just a coincidence theyre not really connected. riiiiiiight
(bad grammar ruined the rest of your post)
1. So you prefer ‘incorruptible’ yet incompetent nutjobs and wanted this country as a basketcase and never move forward for progress? Nice logic you got there. Keep on accusing me as a GMA cheerleader and you’re just keep on exposing your sheer idiocy and ignorance. Just as expected from an angry mob mindset of yours.
2. It’s a small deal because those kind of election-related crimes had exist for a long time before GMA. The Maguindanao Massacre became a big news because it involves journalists. It won’t be an issue if they were just ordinary people. And speaking of electoral fraud, are you saying that past cases of electoral fraud before GMA doesn’t count? HERP DERP! The system is the problem, not the people in it.
Every time and then, you just love to bark on the wrong tree yet no proof has shown.
1. i want incorruptible, competent, sexy, invincible, indomitable, punctual, sane president
2. so the crux of your logic is because violence and fraud went on before gloria, she is blameless for whatever happened under her watch. ok fine hehe. but to extend your argument, would you say then that pnoy would also be blameless due to the same reasons? no you wont, because you are a gma zealot. both presidents should be accountable, command responsibility and all that
1. The president alone doesn’t make the democratic system work, fckface. Read a book once in a while.
On the preference of leaders, there were Gibo and Gordon because that is what the country needs: people who concrete vision. Unfortunately, mindless mobsters would prefer atheltes, apelyidos and artistas. Sorry, but those kind of leaders that your looking for would be a very long time to make it happen unless democracy here wouldn’t be treated as a spectator sport. And it is.
2. “Innocent until proven guilty” is much better compared to the mob mentality-based “Guilty until proven innocent” hehe. I’ve known politics more than you ever wished to be. I would never state the same reasons on PNoy because as of now, he never did a better job and all he has to do is to sleep on it and just wait for the media to come by to show us that he is doing well. Talk about incompetence if you ask me. And he keeps on wasting time chasing his political enemies; in other words, focusing on trivial matters. And he’s even corrupt because of higher pork barrel, his blatant defiance of the rule of law and even bribery like what he did to the 180 congressmen. Oh, and even Hacienda Luisita.
You said that both leaders should be accountable and command responsibility. But not PNoy. When something bad happens, one would blame it on someone else instead of taking responsibility. He is currently doing that. And that’s COWARDICe. If that is the case, eh bakit ang laging nakasulat sa papel mo ay si GMA? Gago.
@jaks: Here’s a hint. Those people (including you) overrate Marcos’ atrocities yet they what they missed is that he introduced a well-disciplined society. That is well applied to Singapore and Malaysia and no wonder why they are more progressed than this country.
People are demonizng Marcos yet they take away what he did for the country. I must tell you that many also get killed during Cory’s time mind you.
of course they were disciplined during martial law because soldiers would shoot you for jaywalking back then. this is discipline based on fear. is that your ideal society, soldiers are above the law?
@jaks: Another point is the roaming communist threat during that time. What’s yours?
Sorry, but I don’t even have a mob mentality like yours.
@jaks: You’re basing it on your parents’ experience. Then I won’t believe because it can be very flawed or maybe they hate discipline or maybe they joined stupid rallies. My father lived thru the Martial Law days and no such thing has happened to him. Care to elaborate.
Another emo whacko on the loose. DUH!
If she’s really a thief, then bring it to court. Not on street parliamentary.
Ilda,
Wasn’t PNoy asked one time if he would let Gloria Arroyo seek treatment abroad if there’s an official statement about the severity of her condition? And his (unsurprisingly) elusive reply was:
“We’ll leave it up to the courts.”
If Gloria, for whatever reason, dies under his watch, I just wonder, how are his government flunkies and oligarch friends going to spin that one?
It will be beyond their control if that happens. Remember, GMA was very popular with most of the rest of the world; if something like that happens, he is going to start hearing pointed criticism (and worse, from the Chinese) that is going to be completely out of his gang of fools’ range to put in any positive light.
Gloria is still popular because her man in the SC is convicted for protecting her.
Are you taking any medication? Because you could sure use some.
@ FISHCRAP
You really need to have a doctor see you since you are displaying the symptoms of being a STUPID YELLOWTARD.
Fishball, you Birdbrain, that did NOT make any sense at all.
Medication is useless when someone refuses to take it.
What? Isn’t conviction of CJ Corona what you called for so that YOUR groups’ popularity be heightened? Nw hw does that relate to GMA?
And he was not convicted for protecting GMA. Get your stories straight.
Hehe, idiocy at its height? I’m sure you all get it from the media and not credible sources.
Pity on those who are easily manipulated.
Someone miss feeding the troll
What medication are you talking about. It would be a compliment for this fishshitball dud.
Rugby ang binabanatan nyan. Yung itinapon na ng ibang user.
I’m just wondering why you people are wasting your time with this dud. Seems to me that his comment readers would be those yellownoballstards who would like to read what is only in their agendas.
Don’t feed the troll!
FallenAngel,
Don’t worry, GMA won’t die on us. The Universe will not get her off the hook that easily. She and her family still has to be punished and made to suffer with great pain for the crimes she has committed against the Filipino people and humanity in general.
God is not sleeping.
@Mina Jose
What crimes are you talking about troll?
Most of the alleged crimes that your cohort FishCrap listed down are only hearsays and LIES.
@FallenAngel
Yeah, he said that and then followed it with something like, if the court allows her to get medical treatment abroad, he will do something so justice will not be delayed. He is probably going to perform some kind of hocus-pocus and railroad it again using his army of small ladies.
“We’ll leave it up to the courts” seems like “hugas kamay” to me. He can actually give them his recommendation now if he really has a heart.
And Gloria still has pending cases, so she must remain there like what she did to Yogie Martirizar. Karma prevails.
Kris, I think Bimby got gum in his hair again; why don’t you go take care of that and let the sober people have a conversation?
Kris, I just submitted a new article that somehow works it way to your Kuya from an unlikely source. Tell him I am ready for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 On Line Team Deathmatch now. PSN ID= spicyfishball. And Kris since you have a lot of pull with the webmaster of GRP Post , I hope my submission sees the light of day. Use those feminine charms that have served you so well in the past in enticing .
Stupid just being more stupid everyday. No wonder why you’re being mistreated.
Requesting deletion of FishSh!t’s comments.
I think this observation of the President is actually true about those who voted for him; more like APATHETIC about what happens to people they hate. And this is because the apathy is driven by hate. And this hate, after all, is what drives his admin’s actions when it comes to GMA. Well, perhaps he does reflect the character of Filipinos in general, because my observation is that many Filipinos are hateful and apathetic. This is something that is not a stranger to people in poverty.
No. Pinoy does not reflect the character of the Filipinos in general. He is an aberration. A freak. I would like to believe that Manny Pacquiao is more representative of our character. He begs to stop the fight when he sees that his opponent is suffering so much. Manny even tries to pull his foe up when the man goes down. Compare that to the actions of Pnoy.
Manny Pacquiao has done more noteworthy things than PNoy. Pnoy has done NOTHING to ease the growing poverty of our country.
I stand corrected!
@Chino
Exactly. That’s why I said that PNoy could learn a thing or two from people in “sophisticated societies” about how to handle compassion. Obviously most members of our society are not sophisticated enough to care about other people’s wellbeing.
Hurting people always hurt other people. Noynoy Aquino was hurt early in life, by the death of his father. He is hurt again, by Justice Corona’s decision of his Hacienda Luisita. He is against all who opposes him. He wants all his way…so he becomes Vindictive…we have a President who is: immature in thinking; spoiled by his wealth and position; and is trying to impose his will to the Filipino nation…Let us give him a good kick on his ass…
Do not be misled by the call for compassion by the notorious senator-judges which include Enrile. They only want to redeem what they revealed as their true color during the kangaroo court trial. Did they show compassion when CJ Corona had to go out quickly for not feeling well? They only showed the very same character of their boss.
@RF Garcia
I thought about that too but I had to end my article. I wanted to say that Enrile seems less concerned about her health but more about what the international community would think if something bad actually happened to her. And it’s pretty silly of the Senators to try and flex their muscles now considering they already gave PNoy too much power when they allowed him to strong-arm the members of Congress by convicting Corona. I mean, good luck trying make PNoy listen to you guys now!
@Hyden Toro
Don’t worry, the time will come when we kick him hard out of malacanang along with his retarded lackeys like FishCRAP straight into a mental hospital.
We are lead by a mentally unbalanced President. Remember Nazi Germany…lead by a mentally unbalanced Adolf Hitler…or the Soviet Union, lead by a mentally unbalanced , Joseff Stalin…Soviet Gulags, and Nazi concentration camps were the results…
It’s sad seeing that GMA really is in a life-threatening situation and the people still think she’s acting.
One must wonder what would happen if GMA does keel over one day. Will everyone suddenly feel sympathy, or will everyone celebrate?
It is even sadder that we have a vindictive, incompetent retard for a president.
Add to that the majority that wanted him to be president.
I think he is still more of a minority president than a majority one. He only got around 40% of the votes, meaning around 60% still doesn’t want him president. Peace.
I suppose, but then at the same time, Erap was runner up. So I still find it sad that PNoy was voted into office regardless.
Has anyone noticed that there is a history here in the Philippines of misapplying compassion?
PNoy granted amnesty to Antonio Trillanes, a mutineer caught red-handed.
PNoy couldn’t care less about GMA’s condition as stated above
GMA pardoned Erap (not that what’s happening to her is karma or anything…)
The senators who voted to convict Corona are now asking PNoy to stop pursuing cases against GMA and the former CJ? They didn’t have the foresight to think just how narrow-minded and single-minded he would be.
We Filipinos not only have a soft, forgiving culture, we also a have culture where compassion is misapplied.
The growing discontentment towards Pnoy is not faltering. Pnoy will face the growing wrath of the people and when he does, it will not end well for his family and his presidency.
Trillanes proved there is no better campaign tool than CNN. Armed mutiny and voted in. The Pinoy voter is dumb .
Why was he allowed to run in the first place? Isn’t there a sensible law in the country banning those convicts from running in any election? This is basic common sense in many countries. You will never see a convicted criminal running for any public office.
Hi Nieves, sensible law? This is the Philippines. Never heard of anyone getting a DUI or DWI what more that? Specially if you know of anyone victimized by a drunk driver. If you have not please read Ilda ‘s piece on Senator judges having worse crimes than what Corona was accused of.
@Amir
Good point. Convicted criminals in perfect health do not deserve pardon especially when they are not even remorseful. But sick people should be given leniency particularly those who have not been convicted yet.
The charges against GMA is very weak. I don’t understand why the people supporting PNoy on this can be so vile.
people have become so vile…so hateful. it’s even encouraged. bs c. aquino’s idea of “unity” is joining him in his cause of throwing stones at his “enemies”. again, these people are not even the people’s enemies, but his own, personal perceived enemies. just look at what happened to corona.
as i read your piece, ilda, i am reminded of some of my former schoolmates who are now doctors who were posting on fb during the testimony of cj corona. they were so mean and making fun of his health when he was brought back in a wheelchair. i couldn’t believe they were doctors. i’ve been tempted to ask one of them who was connected to medical city when corona was eventually rushed there, and then brought to the icu, “hey, i thought you said corona was just faking?”
bs c. aquino just brings out the WORST in people. the zombies would deny it, but then again, they are already dead.
Their sense of justice is screwed up. Apparently, it’s a-okay for them to bully someone like Corona if they’re perceived as “the enemy”. Double standard at its finest.
@ici
I read the same things on other forums. It’s terrible. That’s why I said that most of them are not sophisticated enough to feel any empathy towards other people. It’s hard to accept that Filipinos can think this way.
Noynoy is less of a human being, more a vile disease.
Noynoy is just a miserable pile of secrets.
You know Ilda makes total sense when you have to resort to that.
Who is this creature Josie Torres? I hope you are not a Filipino. Im sure you are one of the yellow Pnoy lapdogs because you have absolutely no emphathy and compassion for Ilda. I just wonder why GRP prints stupid comments like those of this alien Torres.
Josie Torres comment deleted. I was reacting to it above then it was gone. Hope my comment still makes sense without that troll’s insult.
Her comment was meant for the spam folder.
@RF Garcia
Once in a while vile comments like hers get through the filter system. But we quickly put it in the spam folder. It’s really amazing how some of PNoy’s rabid supporters actually think that they have the moral high-ground with a mentality like that.
@Ilda
It is also amazing how they still support this incompetent president even though he has done absolutely nothing so far in these past 2 years of mediocrity.
I will tell you nothing new. They bought the Noynoy hype emotionally. They bought all that anchoring to a not so glorious past. They try to defend their decision to back Noynoy logically. Then they lash out at anyone who makes sense. The spammers and trolls are just proof sites like ours are a threat to their house of cards.
They refuse to admit their mistake in voting for PNoy that’s why they would rather continue defending him. They are starting to look ridiculous now.
@Ilda
My Parents and my siblings that didn’t vote for PNoy, refuse to admit that PNoy is incompetent. They had let themselves be brainwashed by the yellow media for 25 years. I only pray that they start snapping out of it.
Some people choose to believe PNoy is “The One” because it is easier to accept what the mainstream media is saying rather than use their own critical analysis.
Then we should start calling him Neo. Expect him to fly and dodge bullets. He is indeed superhuman the way the media has treated him and how others fell for it hook line and sinker. And like you said it’s not a masa thing. Including people I know who MBAed abroad. They don’t question his skills, his experience nothing. Literally handed to him on a silver platter. Moronic pinoy culture.
http://cornholiogogs.multiply.com/journal/item/1287
any chance we can see the spam folder?
an autistic cannot have these virtues. you are asking too much of the person. he is animal actually.
As an outsider looking in, and one who’s first language is notnTagalog, I would have to admit, watching the news coverage leads me to agree that Aquino does somewhat have an air of arrogance. I wouldnt necessarily say cruelty but it strikes me as someone diametric to how non-Filipinos view the average Filipino as one of a warm and caring person. Especially since the President’s mother seemed so universally loved and cherished. One would think her son would have been viewed the same.
Obviously, his upbringing has something to do with his lack of empathy. He cannot put himself in other people’s shoes because he doesn’t need to. Being a member of the oligarchy and the son of so-called “heroes”, he’s always had it easy.
Actually his upbringing is a can of worms in which one can endlessly speculate. Let’s see absentee father because of incarceration, female dominated family , mama’s boy, serial dater, media in his back pocket. I have some ideas.
http://cornholiogogs.multiply.com/journal/item/1241/
Huh!you’re not christian after all, accussing GMA of cases without evidences and merely believing on their hearsays (cases) is not a sign of a good devoted christian. And I’m referring to retard person in Malacañang =) not GMA gotcha!
@traffice2000
What are you talking about? Please read the article more carefully. There is no mention at all of Chriatianity. Are you just trying to add confusion to the issues at hand. I have one word for you — TROLL!
RFF Garcia,
Read traffice2000′s comment carefully. It’s directed at our “dear leader”, Benigno Simeon (BS) Aquino. BS Aquino gives the impression that he’s very prayerful, religious and the like, but that vindictiveness and vilification just does NOT fit in. Plus, his case is flimsy.
@RFF reply ko yan sa isang nagcomment kala niya eh binabanatan ko si GMA eh hindi niya naintindihan ko yung comment ko later on tinanggal niya kaya napunta sa baba yung reply ko..get mo? peace bro =D I’m on your side.
Easy for someone with no real picture to call someone else a troll. Ilda is not a troll and I have corresponded with her one on one. You on the other hand will not be missed here should you drop off the face of Kris Aquino’s makeup. You are here with an agenda and it’s not to participate in the posted topics. That is a troll in my book.
I was replying to Ms. J. Torres and surprise surprise deleted comment.
Ms. J. Torres, Ma. Socorro dela Cruz and Josie Torres are one and the same troll. She seems to be holding a grudge. I wouldn’t be surprised if she is also sanjo.
I almost miss sanjo/ jonas. No matter what the name, no matter what the gender.
Ed,
We used to get a higher class of trash in this neighborhood
It seems most rabid PNoy supporters lack the wit to write comments with enough class.
FA, there was this guy that went through Bob Dylan’s garbage. I might even have the list at home.
[it is easy to judge Philippine President Benigno Simeon “BS†Aquino by the way he treats his political enemies]
Hi Ilda. You do realize that emphasizing the “BS” is tantamount to name calling regardless if those letters are actually part of his initials, don’t you? Don’t you think that the arguments and facts you presented in your article are already good enough to drive your point without you having to resort to such a low tactic?
Election promise by Noynoy – sign waiver. That was 2010. Two years later still no signature after continuously publicly berating Corona. Do ad I say not do as I said. That earns the BS moniker even if those were not his initials.
I was supposed to say “as” not “ad” . Anyway not one person has ever made the case to me why Noynoy deserves to be elected to the highest position in the land. Having the right mom who died at the right time is not a valid reason to be president. So what does he do. Makes a ton of promises that were on his website which were then erased after the election. One of them being the waiver that he would not sign. That does not seem to offend you but use of the President’s real initials (BS) does? Saying anything to get elected and then not following through when he does get elected? To me that is a low tactic. Yet you come at Ilda for using real initials. Noynoy deserves any criticism he gets. His fault for agreeing to run for President.
Hi Gogs. Did I say or sound like I was offended by Ilda’s virtual name calling on PNoy? And did I say or sound like I’m not offended by PNoy’s broken promises and lame excuses? My point is, Ilda made a very good job of driving her point in this article but unfortunately she somehow ruined the impact because it seems that she’s not confident enough with the strength of her arguments and the veracity of her facts that she felt the need to resort to something that is tantamount to name calling. If you can achieve your goal of calling out someone’s bullshit by using sound logic and eloquent language, isn’t that more effective in driving your point than actually saying the word bullshit or even BS (regardless if that’s part of his initials)?
Fair enough Jong. Thought did occur to me after. Then your reply sealed it.
@jong
So you consider someone not confident enough because of what you perceive to be “something that is tantamount to name-calling”? Gee…for an atheist you are very judgemental, indeed. Don’t pretend you got the point of the article because if you did, you wouldn’t be quibbling on details.
There are other more important points raised but you chose to focus your attention on something that you are not even sure of or not even “confident” enough to know what I meant by it. Frankly, it’s not my problem if you put malice into my use of his initials.
I can’t imagine why you would consider it “name-calling” anyway. A lot of people would consider it simply as stating a fact.
[Ilda: "Don’t pretend you got the point of the article because if you did, you wouldn’t be quibbling on details."]
Look who’s being judgmental now.
[Ilda: "you chose to focus your attention on something that you are not even sure of or not even “confident†enough to know what I meant by it."]
Oh, I’m quite confident of what you meant by it. Of course, I’m willing to change my mind if I see another (previously-written) article of yours where you referred to Marcos as “Ferdinand Emmanuel ‘FE’ Marcos” and to GMA as “Maria Gloria ‘MG’ Macapagal-Arroyo” or to other personalities in the same manner.
[Ilda: "I can’t imagine why you would consider it “name-calling†anyway. A lot of people would consider it simply as stating a fact.
"]
Are you actually saying that name calling and stating a fact are mutually exclusive? They’re not. In name calling, it doesn’t matter whether what you say is true or not; what matters is that your intent is to arouse prejudice towards your opponent.
Anyway, I’m sorry if I offended or annoyed you with my comment. That wasn’t my intent.
@Jong
Well, this is really interesting. A member of the Filipino Freethinkers questioning my “freedom” to use different literary devices. Feel free to read all my articles. I have about a couple hundred spread over various GRP sites.
Please note that there is a difference between saying “A lot of people would consider it simply as stating a fact” and saying, “It is a fact“. Did I say the latter? No.
It will take more than lame pot shots to “annoy” or “offend” me. I actually enjoyed reading some of the other responses to you.
Is there anything else you would like to discuss about the article? You are obviously stuck on this “issue”. Now on its second day, one can be forgiven for thinking that you really are quibbling on details.
Cheerio!
@jong: But isn’t “BS” a legitimate acronym for the name of the current Philippine president? “PNoy” and other monickers were all arbitrary creations as well. So what’s up with this small-minded focus on some people’s preference to refer to the president using the initials of his first two given names?
Tsk tsk. Heritage of smallness talaga ang mga Pinoy.
[Ilda: "A member of the Filipino Freethinkers questioning my “freedom†to use different literary devices."]
Please read my original comment again and decide if it was really your freedom to use different literary devices that I am questioning. Here, let me repost it for your convenience:
“Don’t you think that the arguments and facts you presented in your article are already good enough to drive your point without you having to resort to such a low tactic?”
[Ilda: "Please note that there is a difference between saying “A lot of people would consider it simply as stating a fact†and saying, “It is a fact“. Did I say the latter? No."]
So you’re not refuting my claim that you employed something tantamount to name calling?
[Benigno: "But isn’t “BS†a legitimate acronym for the name of the current Philippine president?"]
Hi Benigno. That’s totally beside the point of my original comment. You might want to read again everything I wrote.
@jong
If you were not questioning my use of literary device then what do you call what you are doing then?
No, it is not “tantamount to name-calling”. Like I said earlier, a lot of people would consider it simply as stating a fact.
Frankly, your line of thinking/questioning is reminiscent of the Inquisition. I thought members of Filipino Freethinkers are beyond that kind of activity. Tsk tsk
[Benigno: "So what’s up with this small-minded focus on some people’s preference to refer to the president using the initials of his first two given names?"]
Okay, my mistake. From now on I shall never again question any name-calling or any other tactics employed in the GRP blog.
I don’t think Benign0 even suggested that. He was merely highlighting the fact that you are too focused on this.
@jong In response to what you say here:
I don’t think so. Actually there wouldn’t be any debate, for that matter, if it wasn’t true that “BS” is, in fact, the initials of the president’s first two given names. Then your assertion that GRP is resorting to “name-calling” would stand on solid ground.
Unfortunately the president of the Philippines does in fact have “BS” as his initials, which makes its use to refer to him a sound proposition.
You are of course within your rights to question anything about what we write here in GRP, so long as you observe our Terms of Service when you do so. Pay particular attention to Sections 2.2.6 through to 2.2.8 and be guided by those items, plez.
If you disagree with any of the “tactics” we employ, do cite them and state in precise terms, ideally citing specific examples, why you disagree with them so that we may take the time to reflect on how best to make your experience of our site a lot more pleasant.
We value your input and appreciate the time you take to bring these issues to our attention.
[Ilda: "If you were not questioning my use of literary device..."]
That wasn’t what you said earlier, but this: “…questioning my “freedom†to use different literary devices.”
So to make it simple, I wasn’t questioning your “freedom” to use different literary devices, but simply your “need” to, particularly in this article where the arguments and facts you presented were more than enough to support the claim you stated in the title, that Noynoy does not have empathy and compassion.
[Ilda: "No, it is not tantamount to “name-callingâ€. Like I said earlier, a lot of people would consider it simply as stating a fact."]
Whatever you say, Ilda. Sure, referring to Noynoy as “Benigno Simeon ‘BS’ Aquino” in no way attempts to prejudice the reader, whether explicitly or subliminally, against Noynoy as a bullshit president.
Anyway, this will be my last comment on this thread. You may choose to reply but don’t expect to hear more from me, at least not on this article. You’re right, I’m too focused on something as petty as name calling. There are more important things to do than to be pedantic about what’s name calling and what isn’t.
Peace!
@jong
Whether I “needed” to use it or not is beside the point. The point is, you are questioning it.
Like I said, it’s not name-calling. You’re the one who keeps insisting and highlighting that it is. That’s what you call having prejudice. In fact, you’re the one explicitly attempting to prejudice other people against my freedom to use a literary device.
BS is not name-calling and you failed to justify why you think it is.
[Benigno: "Actually there wouldn’t be any debate, for that matter, if it wasn’t true that “BS†is, in fact, the initials of the president’s first two given names. Then your assertion that GRP is resorting to “name-calling†would stand on solid ground."]
There are some things I said in my previous comments that would answer that, and I don’t like repeating myself. So as I said to Ilda (now I’m repeating myself again! hehe), you’re right, I’m too focused on something as petty as name calling. There are more important things to do than to be pedantic about what’s name calling and what isn’t.
Thanks, Benigno, for pointing out the pertinent sections in your Terms of Service.
More power to your blog!
Some people see “BS” for simply what it is, the initials of his given name. Frankly, calling him Benigno Simeon Aquino all the time is just too inconvenient, but there doesn’t have to be any associated derogatory meaning with it.
On the other hand, others will see what they want to see, that every time Aquino’s name is mentioned, all they can think of is “bullsh*t.”
Don’t put any meaning into words where there is none, and definitely don’t let your own personal biases get in the way of the message.
Hi Fallen Angel.
[Frankly, calling him Benigno Simeon Aquino all the time is just too inconvenient]
Is “PNoy” or “Noynoy” more inconvenient to say than “Benigno Simeon ‘BS’ Aquino”?
[every time Aquino’s name is mentioned, all they can think of is “bullsh*t.â€]
Well isn’t that exactly the author’s intention? Like I said to Gogs, if you can achieve your goal of calling out someone’s bullshit by using sound logic and eloquent language, isn’t that more effective in driving your point than actually saying the word bullshit or even BS (regardless if that’s part of his initials)?
I am going to show my age here. I remember the days when the headlines would always include “FM”. Again, is that the same thing or different thing? Except FM is mostly known as Frequency Modulation and BS is known for a profanity.
They didn’t call Ferdinand Emmanuel Edralin Marcos “FE,” did they? If we’re going to apply the same logic to PNoy, we might as well call him “BA”. Unfortunately for PNoy, his parents gave him a name whose resulting initials don’t sound as elegant as FM or FVR or GMA. And this is what the author of this article took advantage of. Would she actually call Marcos “Ferdinand Emmanuel ‘FE’ Marcos”?
I went to school with a guy named Frank Urinh. His initials were F.U. Nice enough guy, just an unfortunate abbreviation.
I use BS most of the time (N/A for informal usage), because it’s technically an accurate abbreviation. That, and it’s an intentional slur. When he drops the supreme arrogance of suggesting that he personifies the nation by calling himself “P-noy”, I might consider being more grown-up about it. Just my point of view.
Ultimately Jong, what we choose to call President Aquino is an inconsequential thing. As I just demonstrated, I would use “President Aquino” instead of PNoy, as I would like to retain some semblance of formality for the highest government post. But that’s just my style; there is no accounting for taste.
Is the author intentionally driving towards the “bullsh*t” definition of BS when BS Aquino is mentioned? We can’t say, and we shouldn’t assume that the author is, just because she’s criticizing the president. Like I said above, we should simply just take it at face value as initials of his first name. Nothing more, nothing less.
If BS as in bullsh*t enters the mind of the reader, then it’s a function of the reader, not the author. Mind you, though, this is a mightily petty thing to argue about.
Jong, I get your point that some of us have more than enough tools in the shed to use that we don’t have to rely on the coincidence of his initials. Although I would be lying if I claimed my personal use of it was unintended. Granted with him, he is either taking credit for all that is positive or crying victim with all that is negative. Being human the initials BS are just to tempting to pass up. The thing is no one I know can think of any quotes from him pre – campaign 2009. He established our perception of him with his campaign. And just about any political campaign is BS anyway. Again, point taken but why must he tempt us so? Sorry if I took the shoulder from the high road.
[Benk: "When he drops the supreme arrogance of suggesting that he personifies the nation by calling himself “P-noyâ€, I might consider being more grown-up about it."]
Benk, I admire your candor.
[Fallen Angel: "Is the author intentionally driving towards the “bullsh*t†definition of BS when BS Aquino is mentioned? We can’t say, and we shouldn’t assume that the author is, just because she’s criticizing the president."]
Logically, what would her intention be? Can you actually imagine the author referring to Marcos as “Ferdinand Emmanuel ‘FE’ Marcos” or to GMA as “Maria Gloria ‘MG’ Macapagal-Arroyo”?
[Fallen Angel: "this is a mightily petty thing to argue about."]
Is it? I respect Ilda as a fellow blogger and I have high expectations from the GRP blog, that’s why I’m a bit disappointed when she had to resort to something tantamount to name calling just to drive her point when her logic and facts would have already done an elegant job.
How about, logically, there is no intention, or no underlying motive. What’s difficult to understand about that?
If a writer uses ambiguity as a device, then it means he/she is leaving it up to the reader to draw his/her own meaning from the context. You obviously drew your own, and what happened is that you’ve been accusing Ilda of putting it in your head.
And one more thing. This whole thing started because your first comment was an assertion, not an inquiry. See the difference? Did it ever enter into your mind that maybe you should have asked about the author’s intentions instead of telling her what you think they were? Not that Ilda will answer you in the way you think you’re entitled to be answered.
If you can’t grasp the concepts of ambiguity and lack of intent/motive, then exactly what is your thinking free from?
@FallenAngel
Hear, hear. Two thumbs up. (Clicks on the imaginary “like” button)
No,jong. Ilda never hits below the belt. What she meant by BS was “Big Shot” and not “B*** Sh**.” Right, Ilda?
On second thought…hmmmm
You are right about that.
hi ilda! this guy jong is an example of people trashing the sense of the story by going on details that they think are offensive to them. that’s exactly what happened to miriam.
@Trish
Unfortunately, yes. The discussion on the thread has completely gone to something irrelevant from the main issue, which is a shame.
And you are right. The same thing happened to Senator Miriam Santiago or “MDS” as some people like to refer to her. I think we have to accept that most Pinoys prefer to focus on the manner or the delivery of the message instead of the actual message. That is part of the reason why we remain one of Asia’s basketcase. *Sigh*
Nothing wrong with using BS because it is after all part of the guy’s name. Besides, he’s the one who prefers using it.
BS is in the eyes of the beholder sometimes. Ever since he ran for president and he told the Filipino people that he is qualified and fit to be a leader of 90 million people. I say B.S. That’s just me.
Where is jong?
Show to them that you have balls!
it’s not ilda’s – nor our – fault that his initials are “bsc” aquino. it’s a fact. besides, he himself don’t seem above resorting to similar “low tactics”.